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Arc speculation about gangers (Spoilers if I'm right!)

The Doctor SAID that River told him his name and he would never tell anyone that unless...., and then he stops. He tells this to Donna at end of the second part. So there is no speculation over what she whispered to him.
 
At the beginning of the last episode the Doctor did seem to have the intention of going to this particular destination - and without Amy (at first)...

And when he got there he immediately inquired about the ganger making equipment...as if he already knew it was there (I'm assuming that he did.)

So maybe he was going to check out a theory he had that this Amy might be a ganger...? Yeah, I suppose it's entirely possible...
 
Hasn't it occurred to anyone that the ganger Doctor being the one who dies in "The Impossible Astronaut" being way too obvious. Given this is a two parter, I'm sure the ganger Doctor will play some other role but the one we saw die won't be it.
 
I think it's a touch obvious.

BTW, I realize this season is a touch more connected, but it's still connected in the same way previous seasons have been. All the other writers throw in hints for the main arc, but the show's producer moves it forward. If the entire twist of the season turns on Graham's concept, that's quite a surprising departure for Doctor Who. So it could be a red-herring to throw us off. It could be a red-herring by sheer dumb luck too (Graham thought it would be cool to have a Doctor doppelganger and it happens to work as part of this season's plot).
 
I think it's a touch obvious.

BTW, I realize this season is a touch more connected, but it's still connected in the same way previous seasons have been. All the other writers throw in hints for the main arc, but the show's producer moves it forward. If the entire twist of the season turns on Graham's concept, that's quite a surprising departure for Doctor Who. So it could be a red-herring to throw us off. It could be a red-herring by sheer dumb luck too (Graham thought it would be cool to have a Doctor doppelganger and it happens to work as part of this season's plot).

As I stated above, I think The Doctor Ganger is going to play an important role but I doubt it will be the one who was killed on the beach because again, way too obvious. However, as we saw in "The Doctors Daughter" a Time Lord can be cloned, regenerative energy and all or at least to a point. Jenny didn't completely regenerate but she did bring her self back to life.

Anyway, I can't help shake the feeling that the duplicate will play an important role.
 
I think it's a touch obvious.

BTW, I realize this season is a touch more connected, but it's still connected in the same way previous seasons have been. All the other writers throw in hints for the main arc, but the show's producer moves it forward. If the entire twist of the season turns on Graham's concept, that's quite a surprising departure for Doctor Who. So it could be a red-herring to throw us off. It could be a red-herring by sheer dumb luck too (Graham thought it would be cool to have a Doctor doppelganger and it happens to work as part of this season's plot).

Yeah that's why I think there are *two* separate arcs - the two Amys, one pregnant and one not, and the death of the Doctor which has to be gotten around.
 
Well, that's disappointing. It's just too contrived to me. The Doctor just happens to drop into Amelia Pond's yard after his regeneration, and she just happens to be the daughter of his future companions, who he's already met as an adult? And if River is Amy's daughter, what could she have possibly whispered to Ten in the Series 4 two-parter? The theory is his name, but why would the Doctor reveal that to Amy's daughter, when it's something he apparently never told any of his other companions over the years? I dunno, it just seemed to me that the mysterious hints River has divulged in her appearances suggests something more weighty and meaningful than something as bland and cheap as "Oh, I'm Amy's daughter."
One sentence response: The TARDIS takes him where he needs to go.
 
BTW, I realize this season is a touch more connected, but it's still connected in the same way previous seasons have been. All the other writers throw in hints for the main arc, but the show's producer moves it forward. If the entire twist of the season turns on Graham's concept, that's quite a surprising departure for Doctor Who. So it could be a red-herring to throw us off. It could be a red-herring by sheer dumb luck too (Graham thought it would be cool to have a Doctor doppelganger and it happens to work as part of this season's plot).

The producer requests every story to differing degrees, though. Let us not forget that the arc-crucial idea of a fob watch was introduced in Paul Cornell's contribution to Season 3.
 
Hasn't it occurred to anyone that the ganger Doctor being the one who dies in "The Impossible Astronaut" being way too obvious. Given this is a two parter, I'm sure the ganger Doctor will play some other role but the one we saw die won't be it.

I think that's the working assumpton that we're all (mostly) working under. Too obvious to be the solution to that problem.

Mr Awe
 
So far, it's looking to me like the Doctor who was killed on the beach by the astronaut was the ganger.

Why? If he needed Amy and Rory's help, why not pick them up in the Tardis and take them out west instead of them getting there on their own to meet him as he sits on the hood of his station wagon? Because he didn't have anything else.

A coworker had an interesting idea about the astronaut who shot the ganger Doctor: it was River. She was in prison for shooting a good man, but she would never say who she killed. There could very well be a plot twist coming up where River will have to kill the Doctor to save something even more valuable. The Silents could be behind it - and there was one watching in the distance to make sure she did it.

I could be full of beans, but it was fun to speculate.
 
I'd argue that, at a minimum, it isn't this Doctor's ganger. Maybe a 200 year older Doctor, but those memories with River have to come from somewhere.

Doesn't explain the Silence all around, though.
 
I'd argue that, at a minimum, it isn't this Doctor's ganger. Maybe a 200 year older Doctor, but those memories with River have to come from somewhere.

Doesn't explain the Silence all around, though.

Also, it's been mentioned a few times in series 5 and series 6 that time can be re-written. It's not impossible that what occurred on the beach might be prevented and I'm really not sure what the consequences would be.
 
Unless you guys are implying that River and the ganger Doctor had lots of adventures together (hence the need to sync their histories), I'm pretty sure its not the ganger Doctor that was killed.
 
Hm, the ganger might be a duplicate of the doctor, but I doubt very much it has the ability to regenerate, which the one on the beach obviously did.
 
I thought that Moffat had explicitly ruled out (rather than being vaguely misleading) the idea that the Doctor on the beach who gets shot is a clone or a duplicate? I think it was in an interview with the Radio TImes.
 
I don't think Amy is a ganger. I can exactly why you think that, and it does make sense from that POV, but the Silence, in the 60s, and Flesh tech 22md Century. While they have the TARDIS looking machine, do they have time travel? Doubtful.
 
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