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Apple Threatens To Shut Down iTunes Store?

That was Wil Wheaton that got his songs back. :lol:

Starring on Star Trek is the best way to get great tech support.

Ah, right! Tangentially, it's amazing how awesome Wil Wheaton is now compared to how much everyone used to hate him :p
 
Well, at Apple, they wear black turtlenecks. And they're called geniuses. ;)

Erm, they wear blue or yellow t-shirts at the Apple Store I go to. :p

Oh, and some of them are good looking and have conversations with you about Stargate SG-1. :lol:

Just throwing this out there, though - a lot of people have mentioned Amazon's store and how good it is. If it's so great, if they have so much pull with the record companies now that they can sell songs as high-bitrate MP3s with no DRM for a cheaper price, why is their store limited to North America ?
 
Just throwing this out there, though - a lot of people have mentioned Amazon's store and how good it is. If it's so great, if they have so much pull with the record companies now that they can sell songs as high-bitrate MP3s with no DRM for a cheaper price, why is their store limited to North America ?

They've announced intentions to expand it overseas. Why is there a holdup? No idea. But I don't see how that's relevant to how good or bad the store is.
 
^It's a demonstration of the fact that large companies (Amazon, Apple etc) don't always get what they want out of the record labels and their monolithic business practices straight away.
 
Well, at Apple, they wear black turtlenecks. And they're called geniuses. ;)

Erm, they wear blue or yellow t-shirts at the Apple Store I go to. :p

Oh, and some of them are good looking and have conversations with you about Stargate SG-1. :lol:

Just throwing this out there, though - a lot of people have mentioned Amazon's store and how good it is. If it's so great, if they have so much pull with the record companies now that they can sell songs as high-bitrate MP3s with no DRM for a cheaper price, why is their store limited to North America ?

I've never been to an Apple store... I've only seen the Mac vs PC ad. ;)

Anyway, international rights are always strange. Like TV, where in Canada you pretty much can't get any of the "big" shows legally online.

Ah, right! Tangentially, it's amazing how awesome Wil Wheaton is now compared to how much everyone used to hate him :p

People realized that Wesley Crusher and Wil Wheaton are actually two different people!
 
I've never been to an Apple store... I've only seen the Mac vs PC ad. ;)

In the one entitled "Genius" the woman is wearing a black t-shirt, not a polo neck. Only Steve dresses that way. His minions in the Guided Tour videos may wear black long sleeve t-shirts but they may not be polo necks. :lol

Anyway, international rights are always strange. Like TV, where in Canada you pretty much can't get any of the "big" shows legally online.

And that's the studios, networks and recording labels' fault for making it that way. They're protecting their old fashioned, inflexible, monolithic, 20th century business practices.
 
Plus, Apple's DRM is hardly the rootkit malware that SecuROM is. Do you have any idea how much harm something like SecuROM can cause? Do you remember the shit that Sony went through with a similar system?

This is factually inaccurate. SecuROM in its current form is not a rootkit, nor is it malware. This meme is repeated pretty constantly and it never has any evidence associated with it.

:wtf: Have you ever actually USED something that installs this shit? This might change your mind.



The iTunes Store only sells DRM-free tracks that they are allowed to sell. It's not their idea to pick and choose.

But EA makes a public apology, modifies the restrictions based on user requests and promises a tool to address the still outstanding requests....

Promises will only get you so far. Let's actually *see* this supposed deauth tool, and prove that it works first (which, if you have read that link, is not looking to be likely). Until then, it's basically vaporware.

and it's "corproate BS". Yeah, that isn't biased at all :lol:

If I am biased for Apple, then you must be biased against it. Who's right?

This entire post can be summed up as, "La, la, la, la, I don't want to listen to logic and arguments, I'd rather post links without reading them and not do any research into what I'm spouting off about. If a class action lawsuit has been filed against a big company like Electronic Arts, THEY MUST BE EVIL!"

Good heavens, I wish I lived in such a simple world. :p
 
^Personally, I have other reasons for thinking EA are evil beyond their use of copy protection.

SecuROM has a well deserved bad reputation. The current version might be just fine but there are some very strong question marks over alleged changes previous versions made to Windows' CD/DVD-ROM drive drivers.

As it stands, EA are only providing this tool because of a somewhat unprecedented backlash against a significant title that they expected to sell well. Pages of one star reviews on Amazon do not help the bottom line.

If they'd done the right thing by their customers from day one, like Apple did with iTunes' DRM, there would not have been a problem.
 
^Personally, I have other reasons for thinking EA are evil beyond their use of copy protection.

Really? Sure, the company's business practices from, oh, 1995 - 2004 or so were bordering on reprehensible, but especially ever since John Riccitiello returned to Electronic Arts, I think it's made an incredible turnaround in terms of practices and responsibility -- the somewhat murky situation regarding Spore notwithstanding.
 
If they'd done the right thing by their customers from day one, like Apple did with iTunes' DRM, there would not have been a problem.

DRM is never the right thing for customers, especially when it's used as a hardware lock. Apple is no different from anyone else in this regard.

It's worth pointing out... Spore has sold pretty well. They didn't have to do anything.
 
^Personally, I have other reasons for thinking EA are evil beyond their use of copy protection.

Really? Sure, the company's business practices from, oh, 1995 - 2004 or so were bordering on reprehensible, but especially ever since John Riccitiello returned to Electronic Arts, I think it's made an incredible turnaround in terms of practices and responsibility -- the somewhat murky situation regarding Spore notwithstanding.

Yes, they have improved, but they're still doing things like buying up any small successful company they come across, trying to poach the Hauser brothers from Take Two and so on.
 
...but they're still doing things like buying up any small successful company they come across...

Their last acquisition was a year ago and Bioware/Pandemic are hardly "small". And there was an existing relationship between Elevation and Riccitiello. And the current studio model allows for significant autonomy in all their studios.

...trying to poach the Hauser brothers from Take Two and so on.
Yes, EA and the entire rest of the industry.

I really hate being put into the position to defend EA and to defend their DRM schemes. DRM in pretty much any form hacks me off. But comparatively speaking, at worst EA is on par with everyone else.
 
...but they're still doing things like buying up any small successful company they come across...

Their last acquisition was a year ago and Bioware/Pandemic are hardly "small". And there was an existing relationship between Elevation and Riccitiello.

Precisely. And let's not forget that it's prohibitively expensive to self-publish games, these days. It was almost certainly in BioWare's best interests to strike such a deal, which guaranteed the company operating capital, financial security and the freedom to devote resources to development, as opposed to having to shop around for publishers like Microsoft and LucasArts.

And the current studio model allows for significant autonomy in all their studios.

Indeed, it does.

...trying to poach the Hauser brothers from Take Two and so on.
Yes, EA and the entire rest of the industry.

No shit.

Also, let's not forget that the only reason the Hausers' status is in question is because their contracts are expiring soon and their stock in the industry due to Grand Theft Auto is utterly huge, and outside of Grand Theft Auto Take-Two continues to hemorrhage money. If EA -- or any other firm, be it Ubisoft, Activision, Microsoft Game Studios, THQ, what have you -- were to offer them a significant increase over what Take-Two is offering, how is that wrong?

(Heck, after years upon years of relentless Grand Theft Auto work, I might want a change of scenery, too.)

It's not a crime for a publisher to want to improve and diversify its portfolio.
 
And anyway, after Mercenaries 2 and the cancellation of The Dark Knight, BioWare is probably happy that EA is picking up the slack from Pandemic. :lol:
 
im sorry I dont own an Apple anything, and would laugh if it happened, but they would never pull iTunes, that would be a dumb move, I hope their bluff is called on this.
 
Bluff? All they've said is that increasing royalties by that amount would put them in a difficult position. I'm not sure I'd describe that as a bluff, just a prediction.
 
Well, the bluff is that they may consider closing down the store because they won't be making any money.
 
im sorry I dont own an Apple anything, and would laugh if it happened, but they would never pull iTunes, that would be a dumb move, I hope their bluff is called on this.
If they do, I think they'll be making a rod for their own backs. If they do and Apple have to increase prices to cover it, then it'll just mean sales will drop. Or if Apple take a cut in their fees, and iTunes operates at a loss, then everyone will end up losing out when it gets to the point where it's no longer worth it.
 
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