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Anyone still watch Star Trek movies on VHS?

The only movie I have on VHS is the special longer version of TMP, which I picked up on eBay a few months ago. I do watch it occasionally.
 
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Star Trek VHS PAL widescreen collection Hi-Fi stereo Dolby stereo 4.2.4 matrix

All I need is new Hi-Fi stereo VCR just hear what the Dolby mix sounds like on the compressed audio over the DVD/Bluray and laserdiscs.

My present Hi-Fi stereo NICAM 728 digital VCR is kinder jaded now, and its been used at to boast the analogue Lt-Rt on analogue Dolby stereo as its done by -4db at normal level so I boast the output to input for the AVR so its within the same level as the Dolby digital or dts which even.
 
My introduction to Star Trek was a homemade VHS of the first three movies on one long-play VHS tape that my father recorded off television in the mid-80s. At this time, we had a silver top-loading VHS player, the remote control for which wasn't wireless but corded (!). I was in the third grade (I'm 29 now).

I watched that cassette thousands of times. Literally. I had a major crisis at once point in which the magnetic tape broke while rewinding. I was devastated. Fortunately, I was able to perform emergency surgery at a tender age by disassembling the cassette, using scotch tape to patch the film, and put it back together, resulting in only a minor BLEOP during a boring V'Ger cloud flythrough sequence. :)

I still have this cassette, though I'm lacking a cassette player with which to watch it. I'd say the only item I've owned longer is my childhood teddy bear (which, sadly, lacks six-inch fangs).
 
My introduction to Star Trek was a homemade VHS of the first three movies on one long-play VHS tape that my father recorded off television in the mid-80s. At this time, we had a silver top-loading VHS player, the remote control for which wasn't wireless but corded (!). I was in the third grade (I'm 29 now).

I watched that cassette thousands of times. Literally. I had a major crisis at once point in which the magnetic tape broke while rewinding. I was devastated. Fortunately, I was able to perform emergency surgery at a tender age by disassembling the cassette, using scotch tape to patch the film, and put it back together, resulting in only a minor BLEOP during a boring V'Ger cloud flythrough sequence. :)

I still have this cassette, though I'm lacking a cassette player with which to watch it. I'd say the only item I've owned longer is my childhood teddy bear (which, sadly, lacks six-inch fangs).

It’s possible to splice the broken VHS tape together with “Scotch Tape" (Cellophane tape) its real easy to do, and I’ve done it on few VHS tapes of my own.
 
Get Bones to hook you up with a prescription to Retinax V.

:rommie:

Retinax V was a medication usually prescribed as a treatment for people with hyperopia, or far-sightedness, in the 23rd century. Some people, such as James T. Kirk, were allergic to this form of medication, and the alternative of "reading glasses" was therefore still required. (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan)

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Jim, I keep telling you, you need medication, Retinax V
 
I'd buy the bluray if they actually made proper scans of the films. The DNR on the latest release is horrible. And I'd like to have the Director's Cut of TMP. Only then...
 
I have them on VHS PAL letterbox (scope 2.35:1 expect Star Trek IV 2.2:1
Dolby stereo analogue 4.2.4 matrix

Also on the laserdisc
Star Trek the motion picture NTSC letterbox Dolby stereo PCM 4.2.4 matrix
Star Trek III NTSC letterbox Dolby stereo PCM 4.2.4 matrix
Star Trek III PAL letterbox Dolby stereo PCM 4.2.4 matrix
Star Trek IV PAL letterbox Dolby stereo PCM 4.2.4 matrix
Star Trek V P&S NTSC Dolby stereo PCM 4.2.4 matrix
Star Trek VI NTSC Dolby stereo THX PCM 4.2.4 matrix

First edition DVD region 2
Star Trek the motion picture directors edition six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek II six-track Dolby stereo (MS)
Star Trek III six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek IV six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek V six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek VI six-track Dolby stereo (SS)

Special edition DVD region 2
Star Trek II six-track Dolby stereo (MS)
Star Trek III six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek IV six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek V six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek VI six-track Dolby stereo (SS)

Original motion picture DVD region 2
Star Trek the motion picture six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek II six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek III six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek IV six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek V six-track Dolby stereo (SS)
Star Trek VI six-track Dolby stereo (SS)

Original motion picture bluray region B
Star Trek the motion picture six-track Dolby stereo True (SS)
Star Trek II six-track Dolby stereo True (SS)
Star Trek III six-track Dolby stereo True (SS)
Star Trek IV six-track Dolby stereo True (SS)
Star Trek V six-track Dolby stereo True (SS)
Star Trek VI six-track Dolby stereo True (SS)

...

A very different kind of TMI, but one none-the-less. ;)

I haven't watched a VHS, let alone a Star Trek, VHS in years. Possibly at all this century (when the century really started) and I don't see myself watching anything on VHS again, ever.

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Anyone else as disturbed as I am about the kleenex under the Blu-Ray discs? :(

I'd buy the bluray if they actually made proper scans of the films. The DNR on the latest release is horrible.

Why don't the movies want you to resuscitate them? They have so much to live for! (Well, except for TFF.)
 
I'd buy the bluray if they actually made proper scans of the films. The DNR on the latest release is horrible. And I'd like to have the Director's Cut of TMP. Only then...

Yes only then...Most of the sound effects are not in the film/DVD edition even a few missing Foley sound effects.

When Kirk tapes his knuckle on the table while he McCoy view Decker and Ilia after some trail and error Decker can’t reach though the alien probe and Kirk knocks his knuckle on the table (only where is the sound!)

It’s on the German language Audio track!

Also the alarm on the enterprise sounds like bunch of alley cats meowing! WTF!

The whole is just a load of rubbish, boy did I get created when I brought this around 2000 I thought it was the original rare 70mm six-track Dolby stereo release.

The original motion picture edition is no better. What Paramount Pictures LA have done is faked a stereo surround mix that masks the monaural surround! You can’t tell when the surrounds should be active in the mix because its got this left and right discrete front folded onto the monaural surround!

You can hear it, if you have custom home cinema that allows you, to mute any channel though a Loudspeaker Management Crossover System with (separate amplification).

I can switch between any channel if I have some suspicion of fake Dolby 5.1 to 7.1 mixes not that I have 7.1 yet, its all in the mix and if, this mess on the surrounds you can sure bet its going to sound far worse in 7.1!

The Star Trek films was never proceeded or mixed with the intention of Dolby 7.1 because 8 channels want even a common thing back in the 70’s much less the 60’s or 80’s until the 90’s with Sony’s SDDS8channel that uses the inner-left/ch2 and inner-right/ch4 like the old days of 70mm six-track magnetic.

And Dolby-EX WTF! Only a few Star Trek films was produced with stereo surrounds on Dolby 70mm blow-up prints.

I don’t think Star Trek II had split-surrounds till around Star Trek III-IV-V and VI.

In STTMP there is this echo reverberation added to Scotty on the voice intercom screen right its suppose to be dry sound not echo! WTF! Also you can hear it on both surround channels!

This is to create the FAKE Dolby-EX so the voice will be partly heard at the centre back WTF!

I know how the Dolby-EX works heck I had prototype diy version of it u and running nearly a full year before it was released with Star Wars episode 1 (1999).

Those buggers at Dolby labs New York must have been taking down notes, when I was just asking them if the idea will work.

I had Dolby pro-logic processor decoder that I was going to use with my Millennium dts 2,4,6 decoder which I just brought around 1998.

The Dolby-EX decoder was rushed out the door revamped Dolby CP45 cinema processor with faceplate change. Wow reminds of the days of Dolby stereo optical prints.

The CP50 was the first followed by discontented CP100 then a CP200 came about and is still in use today! The CP55 65 followed around the 90’s with CP500 with CP45 late 90’s and the early 2000 a CP650. Now its all gone digital mad I’ve kinder lost interest in what they do now.

If Dolby had half a brain they would have commercial centre back surrounds years before! In fact it always bothered me around 1989 when seeing "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" in 70mm Dolby SR (SS). By the time he airplane was midway around the cinema on the surrounds the two halves of the surrounds create a centre phantom image that kinder floats around yet, disorientating the ear?

It didn’t strike me till around early 1998 when I was saving up for dts decoder for my laserdisc player as Dolby AC-3 modifications were often costly and I didn’t feel happy about sending my Pioneer CLD-1750 off for a modification.

So I went for the easy route.

Goldeneye was the first THX laserdisc I demoed and the illusion of the tank rolling around St. Peters square, was nothing short than WOW! It had me ducking for cover, over regular surrounds sidewalls.

It basically freed-up the centre phantom and placed it in new location that worked without any issues.

You might now wonder why there have been so few films promoted in Dolby-EX you hardly see it on end credits now. It was simple way of getting more bums on seats nothing more or nothing less.

And if this sound funny! Dolby forget to put the surround matrix rear on all AVR idiots, like the professional model Dolby-EX SA10 which is the same as the CP45.

The Dolby-EX works in the same exact way as Dolby stereo 4.2.4 matrix encoding/decoding.

Only its reversed around so the centre phantom sound information goes to the centre back loudspeakers in phase and anything opposite it goes to left and right surrounds just like the fronts LCR is decoded.

Only they didn’t fit it with surround rear! That was later used in “We Were Soldiers” (2002) dubbed as “Sonic Whole Overhead” and it just mealy encodes extra sound information on the stereo surrounds with anti-phase out of phase so that it sounds when it comes in on the mix.

SONIC BOOM
http://www.smartdevicesinc.com/pdf/sonic_boom.pdf

Wow as if that wasn’t anything new! They could have just as easily done this with 70mm six-track Dolby Stereo with split-surrounds.

I use a separate AVR connected to the main AVR on the surrounds that is wired for overhead matrix surround and its not a big deal to set-up in the home, just about any diy home cinema enthusiast customs there set-up today.

Blimey maybe I should get job at Dolby! sigh
 
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I recently picked up a VHS copy of the theatrical release of TMP at a nearby thrift store. The sound is kinda murky, but it still makes for a bit of an historical piece.

Personally, I prefer the DE, if only because they fixed those abominable matte paintings.
 
Hell no, VHS=crap. I had a Super BETA Max anyway.

Its not just the poor video quality, most of these films were pan and scan.

I dunno. Sometimes my VHS tapes last longer then DVD's do... they don't get scratched up and stop working :)

Lister: What are these things?
Kryten: They're Digital Versatile Discs, sir. DVDs for short. They were very popular in the early part of the 21st century before they died out and were replaced with what we use now.
Lister: Oh, you mean videos?
Kryten: Precisely. Back then no one knew that the human race were utterly incapable of putting the DVDs back in their cases. Case in point: over 2 trillion went missing in just over 20 years. Videos are just too big to lose.

In answer to the OP, I'm dvd all the way, though I do have a blu-ray player in the form of my PS3 I'm one of thouse people whoe doesn't see much difference and decides to save a few pennies.
I first saw Trek on VHS, but seen as they were all my Dads and he's moved out I had to get my own collection.
 
I still have all of the first ten Trek movies on VHS. Not as a box set, but as they actually were released individually over the years (they're all in very good shape). I actually got the Nemesis VHS marked down at my local grocery store.

Star Trek XI is the first and only Trek movie that I got on DVD.
 
I have the first six movies on VHS, they were a Christmas gift from my mom along with a VCR. Man, I can't believe how long ago it's been since I got them.
I've got a couple of TNG movies on DVD.

James
 
Nah. I've got them all on DVD now. I still have my tapes of Generations and First Contact from my mid nineties teenage Trek obsession, though.
 
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