Anyone remember The Flash? Based on the DC comics character

[NextGen123]

I don't think David Ogden Steirs would have lasted one year as Martian Manhunter. I didn't think it was so bad that it couldn't have improved after the pilot. The Flash pilot was far from perfect and yet I think it was canceled too soon. The powers that be at CBS never understood how good the Flash could become.

I just wish another network could have picked up the show. Does anyone know if there will be a feature film about the scarlet speedster?

 

[Christopher]

Does anyone know if there will be a feature film about the scarlet speedster?

There's been one in development hell for years, I think, but after the box-office failure of Green Lantern, it's uncertain whether Warner Bros. will be willing to gamble with another second-tier DC hero.

 

[od0_ital]

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If DC wants to make a Justice League movie to compete with Marvel's Avengers, they don't really have a choice, unless they're hopin' folks will turn out to see a no-name Batman, a no-name Superman, Ryan Reynolds & a bunch of second tier heroes in what could just be a one-shot movie...

 

[Agent Richard07]

Everything seemed wrong. Starting with the muscleman Flash costume.

I can't imagine a better costume design.

Martian Manhunter looks like G'Kar from Babylon 5.

 

[Christopher]

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If DC wants to make a Justice League movie to compete with Marvel's Avengers, they don't really have a choice, unless they're hopin' folks will turn out to see a no-name Batman, a no-name Superman, Ryan Reynolds & a bunch of second tier heroes in what could just be a one-shot movie...

Well, who says they do want to make a JL movie? That's just conjecture, as far as I know. And even if they did want to, that doesn't automatically mean they will; Green Lantern was probably testing the waters for a broader DC-movie strategy, and given its failure, WB is going to be wary about proceeding with such a strategy. The movie business is not driven by wants alone, it's driven by profits. If WB is convinced it can't make money from heroes other than Superman and Batman, then it won't make movies about them, no matter how much it may "want" to in the abstract.

 

[Silvercrest]

Martian Manhunter looks like G'Kar from Babylon 5.

Doesn't he, though? Come to think of it, I bet Winchester would have made a great G'kar if it ever became necessary.

 

[od0_ital]

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If DC wants to make a Justice League movie to compete with Marvel's Avengers, they don't really have a choice, unless they're hopin' folks will turn out to see a no-name Batman, a no-name Superman, Ryan Reynolds & a bunch of second tier heroes in what could just be a one-shot movie...

Well, who says they do want to make a JL movie?

While promotin' The Dark Knight, Christian Bale said he refused to reprise the role of Batman for a Justice League movie, which says to me he was approached by the studio to do just that.

A couple of years ago, there was an article about how the studio released the actors that had been cast for the movie so they could pursue other options and none of 'em were a name.

Green Lantern shows that they are tryin' to build a bigger world for DC heroes.

Sure, the box office failure may be a set back for the studio, and their plans for a Justice League may just be because Marvel is doin' an Avengers. But I bet if Avengers turns out to be huge, which it probably will, WB will be back on track to makin' a Justice League, whether they've set the stage for it with previous films or not.

 

[NextGen123]

Martian Manhunter looks like G'Kar from Babylon 5.

Doesn't he, though? Come to think of it, I bet Winchester would have made a great G'kar if it ever became necessary.

Now that you mention it; your exactly right. I see how he could be a Narn on B5 very easily. I wish they would bring that show back. As far as I'm concerned that show could have run ten seasons. It's too bad TNT didn't embrace Crusade and give it the chance it deserved. I even thought the Rangers B5 series had potencial to do the same thing.

I liked the direct to DVD tales from B5. However I was hoping for more of a blockbuster type of storyline.

 

[NextGen123]

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If DC wants to make a Justice League movie to compete with Marvel's Avengers, they don't really have a choice, unless they're hopin' folks will turn out to see a no-name Batman, a no-name Superman, Ryan Reynolds & a bunch of second tier heroes in what could just be a one-shot movie...

Well, who says they do want to make a JL movie?

While promotin' The Dark Knight, Christian Bale said he refused to reprise the role of Batman for a Justice League movie, which says to me he was approached by the studio to do just that.

A couple of years ago, there was an article about how the studio released the actors that had been cast for the movie so they could pursue other options and none of 'em were a name.[/QUOTE]

Green Lantern shows that they are tryin' to build a bigger world for DC heroes.[/QUOTE]

Even with the failure of Green Lantern; I'd be willing to see him in the JLA or JLI. Depending on who writes and directs
it will be tough act to follow. Sometimes I wonder if it would be better to do a complete CGI film ala The Incredibles. I just saw on Cartoon Network there is going to be a CGI animated GL, so I am wondering if this is the future of the DC movies.

Sure, the box office failure may be a set back for the studio, and their plans for a Justice League may just be because Marvel is doin' an Avengers. But I bet if Avengers turns out to be huge, which it probably will, WB will be back on track to makin' a Justice League, whether they've set the stage for it with previous films or not.[/QUOTE]

 

[Christopher]

While promotin' The Dark Knight, Christian Bale said he refused to reprise the role of Batman for a Justice League movie, which says to me he was approached by the studio to do just that.

Sure, I'm fully aware that they were considering the possibility in the past. What I'm saying is, just because it was talked about in the past, that doesn't automatically mean it's currently part of the studio's official plans. Film development is a messy, complicated business where proposals -- and the producers and directors involved with them -- come and go all the time. An idea that's bandied about one year may be abandoned or mutated into something unrecognizable the following year. And if anything, the news we've gotten about Warner Bros.' past attempts to develop a Justice League film make it clear that they don't have a clear, systematic strategy for it the way Marvel Studios has had for their Avengers film. It's something they've talked about and tried to get off the ground in various ways, but that's a long way from being a sure thing.

 

[JD]

I think George Miller's version got almost up to the casting and scripting phase before it fell apart. But as far as I know that was the most recent attempt and nothing has really been mentioned publicly since it fell apart.

 

[DWF]

I think George Miller's version got almost up to the casting and scripting phase before it fell apart. But as far as I know that was the most recent attempt and nothing has really been mentioned publicly since it fell apart.

Miller had cast Megan Gale as Wonder Woman before the project fell apart.

 

[Hyperman]

I don't recall who mentioned it earlier, but the idea of a Flash episode featuring Barry fighting all of his villains was one of the ideas considered for the second season of the show. I recall reading about that (and thinking it would be awesome to see, as I was a HUGE fan of the show and the comic) in an interview with Bilson and de Meo in an issue of...

...wait for it, here's how old I am...

...Comics Scene.

I miss those days. The thrill of picking up an issue of Starlog or Comics Scene along with my other comics and then reading EVERY page to see what new comic/sci-fi films were in the works or to read great interviews.

Back to The Flash, though, it was a great series with strong writing, characterization, and SFX. I showed my girls the pilot a few years back and they loved it. It's a shame that it got canceled.

 

[NextGen123]

I don't recall who mentioned it earlier, but the idea of a Flash episode featuring Barry fighting all of his villains was one of the ideas considered for the second season of the show. I recall reading about that (and thinking it would be awesome to see, as I was a HUGE fan of the show and the comic) in an interview with Bilson and de Meo in an issue of...

...wait for it, here's how old I am...

...Comics Scene.

I miss those days. The thrill of picking up an issue of Starlog or Comics Scene along with my other comics and then reading EVERY page to see what new comic/sci-fi films were in the works or to read great interviews.

Back to The Flash, though, it was a great series with strong writing, characterization, and SFX. I showed my girls the pilot a few years back and they loved it. It's a shame that it got canceled.

I also used to read Comics Scene and Starlog. Those magazines had a respect for genre movies of the past. I remember the editor David McDonnell (if I spelled his name right, it's been awhile). He wrote me a hand written letter on why the Star Trek line of magazines were not profitable any more and why they had to stop publication.


The letter was a thank you for the support I'd given them for buying each and every Star Trek series magazine they had at the time. I remember they had one for Voyager, ST:NG, Deep Space Nine and the super specials each year.

On to the subject of the Flash, I wish that there was a letter writing campaign to take to show to a second season. It was part of my week to see that show and it was always being switched to another day or not seen at all in my area.

I believe that the network had no respect for the super hero gere and dismissed it as a childrens show.

 

[Broccoli]

I believe that the network had no respect for the super hero gere and dismissed it as a childrens show.

That's actually quite the opposite. CBS seemed to like the show as it tried and tried to have it find an audience, including rerunning the series during the summer to see if it could pick up some steam for a second season.

Truth is the ratings sucked and it was a costly show to make. That's a bad combo for renewal.

 

[Hyperman]

I also used to read Comics Scene and Starlog. Those magazines had a respect for genre movies of the past. I remember the editor David McDonnell (if I spelled his name right, it's been awhile). He wrote me a hand written letter on why the Star Trek line of magazines were not profitable any more and why they had to stop publication.


The letter was a thank you for the support I'd given them for buying each and every Star Trek series magazine they had at the time. I remember they had one for Voyager, ST:NG, Deep Space Nine and the super specials each year.

Those Star Trek magazines (I only bought the TNG and DS9 series) were fantastic. High quality from production to content, and affordable. I still have a bunch of them and love to flip through them.

And the staffs of all of these mags always seemed like such nice people. They were also obviously big fans and I often found the articles were written in such a way as to welcome those who might be unaware of whatever the subjects were.

I learned about a lot of great comic book and classic horror and sci-fi history from those mags.

Sad to see them go.

 

[Professor Zoom]

I believe that the network had no respect for the super hero gere and dismissed it as a childrens show.

Why would they make it in the first place then? Why would they keep trying to show it then?

People dismiss networks with this sort of excuse when their favorite show doesn't make it.

You may have liked it, just like I did, but, there weren't enough people watching. Period. It wasn't the network that dismissed the show, it was America that did.

 

[DWF]

I believe that the network had no respect for the super hero gere and dismissed it as a childrens show.

Why would they make it in the first place then? Why would they keep trying to show it then?

People dismiss networks with this sort of excuse when their favorite show doesn't make it.

You may have liked it, just like I did, but, there weren't enough people watching. Period. It wasn't the network that dismissed the show, it was America that did.

CBS wsa even nice enough to put the show at 8:30 originally so that he didn't openly complete with the ratings giant at the time The Cosby Show.