Don't forget the Chinese assistance of the Soviets! =)
Anyone Like Alternate History Speculation?
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Don't forget the Chinese assistance of the Soviets! =)
Brendan DuBois' Remembrance Day is set in the US a couple of decades after the Cuban Missile Crisis turned into all out war. A new enemy is lurking---
Mona Clee's Branch Point imagines a handful of survivors after the Cuban Missile Crisis erupts into war and poisons the world build a time machine to go back in time to make it come out right. This author has a serious case of Kennedy love.
Mona Clee's Branch Point imagines a handful of survivors after the Cuban Missile Crisis erupts into war and poisons the world build a time machine to go back in time to make it come out right. This author has a serious case of Kennedy love.
I'll have to get that. I always thought that would have been the best way to deal with the Soviets.
Well, that's not too far out.
In an alternate timeline, she's out of uniform in that picture.... and you're allowed to Post it!The only alternate history I'm familiar with is C&C: Red Alert.
Women's military uniforms are a lot nicer in the alternate timeline, and humanity seems to have forgotten how to do up shirt buttons...
"A TransAtlantic Tunnel Hurrah!!" by Michael Morcock is one of my favorites..
Much of Harry Turtledove is quite enjoyable...though he's getting a bit..predicitable in his writing.. for a ripping good WW3 story.."Red Storm Rising" by Tom Clancy now falls under alternate history...as well as most of Clancy's "Jack Ryan" series...
Much of Harry Turtledove is quite enjoyable...though he's getting a bit..predicitable in his writing.. for a ripping good WW3 story.."Red Storm Rising" by Tom Clancy now falls under alternate history...as well as most of Clancy's "Jack Ryan" series...
KSR's The Years of Rice and Salt imagines what would happen if the bubonic plague had wiped out nearly the entire population of Europe, effectively eliminating Christianity from being an influence in the development of the world from that point on. China discovers the Americas from the west, Europe becomes Muslim territory. Really great read.
I would also recommend the book What Ifs? of American History, edited by Robert Cowley. Among some of the essays and stories in the collection are:
--William Pitt the Elder lives long enough to negotiate acceptable terms that avoid the revolution.
--JFK lives....
--The Cuban Missile Crisis yields a nuclear exchange between the USA and USSR.
--The Watergate scandal never happened.
It has a few clunkers in there, but most are very good.
I would also recommend the book What Ifs? of American History, edited by Robert Cowley. Among some of the essays and stories in the collection are:
--William Pitt the Elder lives long enough to negotiate acceptable terms that avoid the revolution.
--JFK lives....
--The Cuban Missile Crisis yields a nuclear exchange between the USA and USSR.
--The Watergate scandal never happened.
It has a few clunkers in there, but most are very good.
I have "What If", "What If 2", and "The What If's of American History".
That is where I first heard of the Able Archer Crisis of 1983. Arguably the last time NATO and the Soviet Union came close to nuclear war.
Second order counterfactuals are of particular interest to me. That is, despite major historical changes, old patterns reemerge and basically the same things happen.
Example:
In "Children of Apollo", despite the earlier changes, Ronald Reagan still becomes president and apparently serves two full terms just as he does in our timeline.
That is where I first heard of the Able Archer Crisis of 1983. Arguably the last time NATO and the Soviet Union came close to nuclear war.
Second order counterfactuals are of particular interest to me. That is, despite major historical changes, old patterns reemerge and basically the same things happen.
Example:
In "Children of Apollo", despite the earlier changes, Ronald Reagan still becomes president and apparently serves two full terms just as he does in our timeline.
Great book indeed. Probably the best and most plausible long-term alt history that I've ever read, too.
MeanJoePhaser
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What if alien space nazis invented the cotton gin 200 years before Eli Whitney?
What if Henry the VIII married a Ethiopian?
What if Germany won the Vietnam War?
What if the Mongols were led by Robo-Cop?
What if Henry the VIII married a Ethiopian?
What if Germany won the Vietnam War?
What if the Mongols were led by Robo-Cop?
I like alternative WW III fiction. Harold Coyle was pretty good then he started to suck after "Sword Point".
The fallacy with this line of thinking is that there IS no "with only a couple of nuclear weapons used". If ANY nuclear weaopns are used, end of humanity, end of story.
That's the Axis of Time trilogy. Very accessible, knows how to poke fun at itself, with some really cool technology and an aircraft carrier called the USS Hilary Clinton. Fun stuff and an easy read.
Oh bullshit. The US detonated over 200 of the suckers above ground (most over Nevada) and you're still posting today.
Depends on the time period and the situation. In fact, it's more likely that there would be only limited use of nuclear weapons. But even in an all-out nuclear war, it wouldn't mean the end of Humanity, just of large-scale civilization.
You can read Romanitas, by Sophia McDougal.
Why do people think that if ANY nuclear weapons are used in any combat situation that the worlds powers would unleash everything in their arsenals.
Does anyone really believe that the Soviets would start launching ICBMs into U.S. cities just because a Motor Rifle Division in West Germany gets incinerated?
Or that the U.S. would start lobbing hundreds of SLBMs into the Soviet Union just because an aircraft carrier is vaporized somewhere in the Pacific.
In fact, I read once in an old Navy magazine from years ago that the U.S. and U.S.S.R. actually had an "unofficial" agreement that if nuclear weapons were used by either side against naval targets that the other side would not respond with nuclear attacks on land.
