Anyone else tired of comic book movies???

[The Lensman]

I'm not tired of comic book movies in general, but I am fucking exhausted of the Marvel Studios formula and the need to have everything connected in a "universe" in some sort of nerd circlejerk.

Avengers 2 was a complete mess because of this. Why does Avengers 2 spend 40 minutes in Wakanda? Because they need to set up vibranium and the country before it shows up in Black Panther. Why is Ulysses Klaw there? So he can show up in Black Panther. Why does Vision have to get created? So he can fight Thanos in INFITY WAR PARTS ONE AND MOTHAFUCKIN TWOOOOOOO

. Why do Stark and Cap fight throughout the film? So they can do Civil War. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck me.

You'd think people would realize this, considering comic continuity gets so fucked up that DC and Marvel have to completely reboot their shit every ten years because it's so messy. That's why the Star Trek reboot worked -- it basically said "fuck off" to 40 years of bloat.

Just tell me a goddamn story.

This.

I'm not tired of super hero movies, I am growing tired of Marvel's increasingly stale, factory produced movies.

 

[Gaith]

At my last office, I got pretty sick of hearing people discuss football all the time. Sometimes one team scored more points than another team; sometimes they didn't. Sometimes one given player did well; sometimes he messed up. (And for all the justifiable concern that comics movies are male-dominated... just listen to some office sports talk sometime.) And, thanks to different sports having different seasons (and preseasons), while football talk dominated, there was almost always some sports talk floating around. And it was always the same old points chatter.

So, am I tired of four or five comics movies a year? No.

 

[Relayer1]

At my last office, I got pretty sick of hearing people discuss football all the time. Sometimes one team scored more points than another team; sometimes they didn't. Sometimes one given player did well; sometimes he messed up. (And for all the justifiable concern that comics movies are male-dominated... just listen to some office sports talk sometime.) And, thanks to different sports having different seasons (and preseasons), while football talk dominated, there was almost always some sports talk floating around. And it was always the same old points chatter.

So, am I tired of four or five comics movies a year? No.

Yup, puts it into perspective !

 

[JD]

I kind of am. I saw four movies this summer....Fast and Furious,Avengers, Mad Max and Antman. Out of those i enjoyed MAD MAX the most. It was an excellent action film with tons of real stunts. Fast and Furious would have been my second favorite. The other two were just kind of ok for me. I think im just not into the super hero/villian thing anymore. Plus the comedy in these films have been ramped up tenfold since Avengers. Im not suggesting comic movies are going away....just that i am tiring of them and looking for other types of fantasy films or in the case of Mad Max a return to more realistic types of fantasy.

Agreed. Avengers Age of Ultron was imo not as good as the first and quite frankly mediocre. I think the superhero craze reached its peak about a year ago and will now start to level off. I would much rather see action films like Mad Max, Die Hard etc. with real stunts. To much of a good thing can be not good after a while.

Superhero movies aren't leveling off anytime soon. As of next year, WB/DC is going to put out 2 movies a year, Marvel Studios is going up to 3 movies a year in 2017 (although that will apparently also include the Spider-man movies which are technically Sony as well), and Fox is looking at a possible new trilogy of X-men movies plus spinoffs. And all of that will still be only a fraction of the total movies coming out. If it seems like more than that, the only reason is because people still really love these movies and they continue to be among the most successful franchises.

Valiant comics also made a deal for movies and TV series, so there's a pretty good chance we can throw those into the mix too. They're probably not going to be as high profile as the movies based on the big two, but they'll probably be there.

 

[Timby]

Avengers 2 was a complete mess because of this. Why does Avengers 2 spend 40 minutes in Wakanda?

It didn't.

They were in a ship graveyard that is on the outskirts of Wakanda. Klaw mentions how hard it was to smuggle it off the mainland and the "Date and Time" cue at the bottom says Wakanda.

The whole Marvel Studios enterprise is the post-credits teaser just creeping further and further back into the film itself. It's just a pitch for more easter eggs.

 

[Turtletrekker]

No it doesn't. That was South Africa, not Wakanda. Why in the world would Klaue set up shop in Wakanda when he has literally been branded as worse than a thief?

 

[Masiral]

Avengers 2 was a complete mess because of this. Why does Avengers 2 spend 40 minutes in Wakanda?

It didn't.

They were in a ship graveyard that is on the outskirts of Wakanda. Klaw mentions how hard it was to smuggle it off the mainland and the "Date and Time" cue at the bottom says Wakanda.

The whole Marvel Studios enterprise is the post-credits teaser just creeping further and further back into the film itself. It's just a pitch for more easter eggs.

No, the "Date and Time" cue says South Africa (or possibly southern Africa), and the police during the Hulk fight sequence are listed in the credits as being from Johannesburg. And there's no such thing as the "outskirts" of Wakanda - Wakanda is a country, not a city, and has been established in the comics as somewhere in Northeastern or Central Africa, far from Johannesburg.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

Anyone else tired of comic book movies???

I'm not tired of comic book movies. Because I love them!

 

[sttngfan1701d]

To this day it mystifies me what people see in The Avengers. I have no clue why it made the money it did. It defined the term "mediocre" in almost every sense. I haven't seen Age of Ultron.

I enjoyed the first Iron Man. The sequels sucked, but RDJ managed to be entertaining.
The first Captain America was mediocre, but the sequel was pretty good.
The recent X-Men movies have been above average as well.

But still, no comic book movie I've ever seen is what I'd call "great cinema." And that includes the massively overrated Nolan Batman films. I still remember people calling The Dark Knight "The best movie ever made" or "The best American movie ever" and "Better than the Godfather." Ridiculous hyperbole. Absolutely ridiculous.

In general, I believe we are reaching the oversaturation point of comic book movies. Studios are going to have to think of bigger stories to keep up the interest level in a few years.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Avengers, purely on the carnival effect of having so many characters from multiple Marvel movies "cross over" and "team up".

GOTG and Ant-Man were also good though along with Cap 2 and IM. Agreed that the rest were bad or mediocre.

 

[Greg Cox]

But still, no comic book movie I've ever seen is what I'd call "great cinema." And that includes the massively overrated Nolan Batman films. I still remember people calling The Dark Knight "The best movie ever made" or "The best American movie ever" and "Better than the Godfather." Ridiculous hyperbole. Absolutely ridiculous.

Not every movie has to be "great cinema" and I doubt that anybody goes to a superhero movie expecting a profound artistic masterpiece. They're the modern-day equivalent of TARZAN or SINBAD movies, full of fun and adventure and colorful characters and special effects.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

(Says the guy who was watching "The Invisible Man's Revenge" the other night.)

 

[sttngfan1701d]

Not every movie has to be "great cinema" and I doubt that anybody goes to a superhero movie expecting a profound artistic masterpiece. They're the modern-day equivalent of TARZAN or SINBAD movies, full of fun and adventure and colorful characters and special effects.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

(Says the guy who was watching "The Invisible Man's Revenge" the other night.)

I agree. They have their place in the cinematic totem pole. But I mentioned that because so many people were fawning over The Dark Knight when it came out. I remember reading things like that. Hearing it from friends. Actually comparing it to The Godfather or saying it was the "Best American movie ever made."

Even popcorn movies can cause paradigm shifts and make the leap into "great cinema"; I understand that too. Raiders of the Lost Ark straight-up changed the way action movies were made, for example. So it's possible, but okay if they just "are what they are."

 

[Tulin]

Hear, hear on TDK.

To this day I still believe the praise and MASSIVE free passes it got was largely due to Ledger's death. Something that was repeated earlier this year with F&F7.

So here's a freebie for all you budding screenwriters out there;

A couple of producers realize their in-production movie is going to be a massive flop so they decide("The Producers" style), based on events cited above their only course of action is to kill off as many of their main cast as possible, to guarantee a hit.

 

[Dream]

I feel completely burnt out on superhero movies after that boring Avengers 2, which felt like a trailer for Avengers 3. Still haven't seen Ant-Man or Fantastic Four.

Maybe a year break away from the genre will do me some good.

 

[MacLeod]

As with any genre there is a whole range of quality, Hollywood tends to go with what is popular at the moment and at the momment one of the popular genres is the Superhero flick, eventually tastes will move on to another genre and we'll see them come out by the dozen.

But you can always vote with your feet and either not go to see them or see a different genre of film.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Not every movie has to be "great cinema" and I doubt that anybody goes to a superhero movie expecting a profound artistic masterpiece. They're the modern-day equivalent of TARZAN or SINBAD movies, full of fun and adventure and colorful characters and special effects.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

(Says the guy who was watching "The Invisible Man's Revenge" the other night.)

I agree. They have their place in the cinematic totem pole. But I mentioned that because so many people were fawning over The Dark Knight when it came out. I remember reading things like that. Hearing it from friends. Actually comparing it to The Godfather or saying it was the "Best American movie ever made."

Even popcorn movies can cause paradigm shifts and make the leap into "great cinema"; I understand that too. Raiders of the Lost Ark straight-up changed the way action movies were made, for example. So it's possible, but okay if they just "are what they are."

You seem to be under the impression that there's some sort of objective way of determining what great cinema or 'best american movie ever made' even is.

I wouldn't put TDK on that level, but from where I'm sitting the Godfather is just as overrated.

 

[MacLeod]

Not every movie has to be "great cinema" and I doubt that anybody goes to a superhero movie expecting a profound artistic masterpiece. They're the modern-day equivalent of TARZAN or SINBAD movies, full of fun and adventure and colorful characters and special effects.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

(Says the guy who was watching "The Invisible Man's Revenge" the other night.)

I agree. They have their place in the cinematic totem pole. But I mentioned that because so many people were fawning over The Dark Knight when it came out. I remember reading things like that. Hearing it from friends. Actually comparing it to The Godfather or saying it was the "Best American movie ever made."

Even popcorn movies can cause paradigm shifts and make the leap into "great cinema"; I understand that too. Raiders of the Lost Ark straight-up changed the way action movies were made, for example. So it's possible, but okay if they just "are what they are."

I would hardly call TDK an American Movie

Director: British
Writers: British
Batman: British Actor
Gordon: Brisith Actor
Joker: Australian Actor
Alfred: British Actor

Sure the likes of Lucius/Dawes and Dent were played by Americans and the film was financed by an American studio and I think it classed as a US/UK co-production.

 

[mos6507]

To this day it mystifies me what people see in The Avengers.

I agree. They spend almost the entire film trying to keep an absurd flying aircraft carrier contraption (albeit straight from the comics) from crashing. Do I really want to pay $10+ to see superheroes try to keep something that looks like it could never fly in the first place from falling down??? It's like an engineering Darwin-award. The stakes didn't move me. I just...didn't...care.

 

[Saul]

(Says the guy who was watching "The Invisible Man's Revenge" the other night.)

Which I didn't enjoy as much as the previous films in the 'Invisible Man' series. A case of diminishing returns like some comic book movies.

Avengers 2 did nothing for me. Marvel movies have built an impressive universe but they lack the Director's touch (freedom) that could make those movies either 'The Dark Knight' or 'Fantastic 4'. It's a risk to screw around with formula but Avengers 2 might have been entertaining if we didn't already know the direction these movies were going.

DC movies look different and fresh for now but 5 years later it'll be just the same. Sooner by the way they are cramming characters into BVS.

 

[Timby]

I feel completely burnt out on superhero movies after that boring Avengers 2, which felt like a trailer for Avengers 3.

By and large, this is the Marvel formula. There are exceptions like Iron Man 3, but then Age of Ultron rendered that the film equivalent of an after-school special. Even a decent chunk of Guardians of the Galaxy was spent with characters repeating the name "Thanos," to start building him up as A Thing that audiences should remember in the future.

And, yes, I agree with you on feeling burnt out; the only thing even marginally intriguing about Civil War is Spider-Man's involvement, and even then, once I see the costume I'll probably just wait to rent it. It's hard for me to muster up the enthusiasm to drop $25 on a two-hour movie that has a bunch of sequel hooks saying, "Don't worry, the next one is going to be really, really good!"