Anybody done a "Deg" with TOS interiors?

[Albertese]

I thought it'd be neat to see an updated "classic" bridge. As much as I love toggle switches, buttons and rocker switches, it'd be cool to see the original bridge layout...same color scheme, button layout, etc, with touch panels and more practical stuff on the screens that usually have "blinkies" on them.

I would argue that the physical buttons are more practical than touch screens. Tactile feedback is not only important in emergency situations where visibility may be a concern, but also is a convenient way to make sure the operator knows he's actually hit the button.

Also I think the "blinkies" are quite realistic. Any kind of industrial setting where I've worked here in the 21st Century, the machinery readouts are not unlike the readouts on the TOS bridge. They seem to reflect real technical stuff going on. To me the LCARS stuff of later years seems less plausible.

--Alex

 

[sojourner]

Don't assume touchscreens from 2 - 3 hundred years in the future are as limited as today's.

http://gizmodo.com/5860525/future-h...ifferent-buttons-and-textures-on-touchscreens

 

[The Lensman]

I thought it'd be neat to see an updated "classic" bridge. As much as I love toggle switches, buttons and rocker switches, it'd be cool to see the original bridge layout...same color scheme, button layout, etc, with touch panels and more practical stuff on the screens that usually have "blinkies" on them.

I would argue that the physical buttons are more practical than touch screens. Tactile feedback is not only important in emergency situations where visibility may be a concern, but also is a convenient way to make sure the operator knows he's actually hit the button.

Also I think the "blinkies" are quite realistic. Any kind of industrial setting where I've worked here in the 21st Century, the machinery readouts are not unlike the readouts on the TOS bridge. They seem to reflect real technical stuff going on. To me the LCARS stuff of later years seems less plausible.

--Alex

You're preaching to the choir friend. The classic bridge is, and will probably always be, my fave.

However, I do love variations on a theme, and would love to see one done in the vein I described. If I had the skills, I'd do it, but alas....

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I thought it'd be neat to see an updated "classic" bridge. As much as I love toggle switches, buttons and rocker switches, it'd be cool to see the original bridge layout...same color scheme, button layout, etc, with touch panels and more practical stuff on the screens that usually have "blinkies" on them.

I would argue that the physical buttons are more practical than touch screens. Tactile feedback is not only important in emergency situations where visibility may be a concern, but also is a convenient way to make sure the operator knows he's actually hit the button.

Also I think the "blinkies" are quite realistic. Any kind of industrial setting where I've worked here in the 21st Century, the machinery readouts are not unlike the readouts on the TOS bridge. They seem to reflect real technical stuff going on. To me the LCARS stuff of later years seems less plausible.

--Alex

Regardless of plausibility, I think physical controls are just plain better for TV and movies. It's more interesting for the actors, and it's more interesting for the audience. There's satisfying physical feedback, which creates the feel of a character responding to technology... and vice-versa.

 

[Albertese]

http://gizmodo.com/5860525/future-h...ifferent-buttons-and-textures-on-touchscreens

Cool!

--Alex

 

[Vektor]

Realistically, the design I posted above would present all sorts of problems to an actual television or movie production environment. All those semi-reflective surfaces would drive the lighting and cinematography guys nuts. It probably wouldn't work that great in actual application either for the same reasons.

I had thought about doing a slightly different version of this without all the glossy surfaces. Who says they have to be so shiny? Future technology aught to be able to display such control interfaces on any kind of surface, reflective or otherwise, perhaps even project them holographically.

Of course, if we're talking about a practical alternative to the 2009 movie version, we also have to think in terms of something that can be built or at least simulated using current technology. No doubt such interfaces could be added in post-production, as some of them undoubtedly were, but doing all of them that way would probably be prohibitive.

See, now look what you did! As if I didn't have enough on my plate already, now I'm coming up with all sorts of ideas for this one again, too.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I started something like this once about six years ago, but it was essentially just the original set with some graphics and color variations:

 

[The Lensman]

Realistically, the design I posted above would present all sorts of problems to an actual television or movie production environment. All those semi-reflective surfaces would drive the lighting and cinematography guys nuts. It probably wouldn't work that great in actual application either for the same reasons.

But we're going for "cool factor" and you're at Warp 3 already. Damn realism!



@Dennis..
Those are pretty nice! Love that astrogator! Illustrates the type of update on the classic bridge that I'd like to see one day.

 

[Redfern]

Don't sell yourself short, Dennis. You too have presented elements I imagined, particularly what you have done with the turbolift alcove like those trim cylinders, rounding the corners of the door "molding", and the subtle beveling underneath the stations.

Sincerely,

Bill

 

[publiusr]

Dennis is spot on. Vektors retro-slick version should have been the 2009 version. Lovely as always.

 

[Ptrope]

I suppose my '4th season' engineering might qualify as a 'DEGified' concept. I've also worked a bit on a version of the TOS bridge I already have, making it something between that of "The Cage" and the flat panels of TNG - it's surprisingly similar to Vektor's model, although not nearly as slick . For the updated bridge, I hoped to use graphic controls laid out similarly to the 'blinkies', but with more functionality and flexibility - absolutely NO similarities to LCARS allowed! .

I'd also say that my TriComm and FlatComm updates belong in that oeuvre ...

 

[Q2UnME]

^Uhm... "Boss", how about some pictures? I'm a visual kind of guy...

Q2

 

[Ptrope]

I'll see what I can do - I'm at work, and my PC is offline, so I'm using my TouchPad ...

TriComm

FlatComm

Engineering

These are links to images on deviantArt ... best I can do at the moment .

 

[Ptrope]

Okay, I dug up the old model converted it to Mental Ray and ran a couple of fresh renderings:

By the way, I didn't create the console graphics, I just happened to have a set lying around that I slapped on there as placeholders. Ultimately, I would want to update them along with everything else.

Perfect! (IMHO, much better than the upgrade from TOS to TMP - I never cared for the new design with the 'shelves' sticking out from the walls. This makes use of all the available space, which makes much more sense)

 

[Wingsley]

One thing I wish that Mr. Cawley and his "New Voyages" crew (and other fan-film endeavors) had done to the "TOS bridge" set when they recreated it would be to take the square workstation displays for the outer rim stations and combine them by twos or threes to form pillbox, HDTV-like displays. It needn't look that different from the actual TOS set displays from the 1960s. I think it would look great.

 

[Q2UnME]

I'll see what I can do - I'm at work, and my PC is offline, so I'm using my TouchPad ...

TriComm

FlatComm

Engineering

These are links to images on deviantArt ... best I can do at the moment .

Thanks for posting the links. They are beautiful. I think they are exactly in line with what Redfern was looking for when he started this thread. Did you ever finish your Engineering Room further? Perfect start; I'd love to see it finished.

Thanks "Boss"!

Q2UnME

 

[The Castellan]

Okay, I dug up the old model converted it to Mental Ray and ran a couple of fresh renderings:

By the way, I didn't create the console graphics, I just happened to have a set lying around that I slapped on there as placeholders. Ultimately, I would want to update them along with everything else.

Perfect! (IMHO, much better than the upgrade from TOS to TMP - I never cared for the new design with the 'shelves' sticking out from the walls. This makes use of all the available space, which makes much more sense)

I'd love to see this for Daz Studio, this bridge would be perfect for my comic.

 

[Patrickivan]

I like that engineering shot most. But ya- nice modernization of the bridge while still very much keeping the feel and look of TOS...

 

[madman]

@Lensman Im currently working on a "TNG style" TOS bridge in Second Life, I'll post some pics when its nearer done if you want.

@Ptrope Do you mind if I base a few ideas of my own on your season 4 engineering?

 

[The Lensman]

@Lensman Im currently working on a "TNG style" TOS bridge in Second Life, I'll post some pics when its nearer done if you want.

Oooh, that sounds cool! Look forward to seeing what you come up with!