Good. That's one.
A blonde New Waver complete with shades dressed as a stereotypical Indian mascot, wrong as that may be, definitely gives me a case of the lulz...
Any Fans of "The Paradise Syndrome"
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Good. That's one.
A blonde New Waver complete with shades dressed as a stereotypical Indian mascot, wrong as that may be, definitely gives me a case of the lulz...
How many months do you think it took them to get to a repair base after saving the planet?
Say, I hadn't made that connection. That works for me. Perhaps the Preservers are long gone, but they still have various bits of tech, like the asteroid deflector and automated spacebourne probes (which are really more like automated roaming starships) doing their dirty work. Perhaps a probe like the whale probe would have eventually swung in to check on Miramanee's people. In that regard, it might be easy to lump the Doomsday Machine in with them, too.
Even more impressive when you consider that he originally said it would take four paperclips.
The Enterprise didn't need to travel anywhere. Nobody said their subspace transceiver was broken. It was a cinch that Uhura radioed Starfleet Command, the nearest Starbase sent a small repair ship or frieghter (or maybe just a courier) with the needed parts, Scotty replaced what was burned out and the Enterprise was on her way.
Why didn't they do that in the two months they were travelling with the asteroid?
See, this is my problem with fan theories about the Preservers: the idea that they're some long-lost ancient race. Judging from the way Miramanee's people were portrayed, they were probably taken in the 18th century or so, just a few hundred years ago. In the grand cosmic scheme of things, the Preservers are a contemporary civilization, not an ancient one. People have far too much of a tendency to treat the recent past as indistinguishable from the ancient past.
If you ask me, the best candidates for the Preservers are the Vians from "The Empath." They have exactly the same MO: relocating endangered populations to new planets. True, Spock didn't recognize their technology as matching that of the Preserver obelisk, but it had been a few centuries. If you compared a 22nd-century phase pistol to a 24th-century phaser, it wouldn't be obvious that they were products of the same technology.
Alternatively, I'm not convinced that "the Preservers" refers to a specific or entire civilization. It sounds more like an organization, one that might have members from multiple species/cultures. Heck, since we only have one canonical piece of evidence of their existence, they could've simply been a short-lived group or faction within a single society.
I loved this episode as a kid, and I was rather surprised to grow up and find out so many people didn't.
I still like it.
I still like it.
I really liked this episode mainly because of the musical score and the fact that Kirk looses his memory temporarily. It was a different episode for TOS, IMO, and it did in fact do the show justice. And plus, loved the Spock/McCoy banter too. 
A lot of fans cringe at this episode for some reason but I see it as being one of my most favorite episodes of the series as well as "The Trouble with Tribbles". 
A lot of fans cringe at this episode for some reason but I see it as being one of my most favorite episodes of the series as well as "The Trouble with Tribbles".
Yeah, I always forget about the time frame involved, so no Doomsday Machine for them. The Preservers could indeed be the Vians as you suggest, though. The idea of some kind of alliance or short-lived faction is appealing too. Perhaps the Vians were the last of their legacy?
...so maybe the Vians sent the whale probe? Bald bastards!
Maybe they did, and it took two-and-a-half months for a ship to get around to helping them. Nobody said there would be a ship waiting on call to help them right away.
I like this episode for the Spock scenes, but I ffw the scenes with Kirk on the planet.
I love this episode. Sure it resets at the end but we're talking 60's tv here. It is a great story, an awesome concept. The Obelisk is cool as shit and it's great to see the "tormented by being married to his ship" Kirk get a new life, if even for a brief time.
I know I already had my say, but it was early on in this thread, there's been a lot of "Paradise" love posted since, and I just really hate this episode. It's almost like some of you nice folks are talking about a different episode than I am - because the one I saw was total schlock.
And I thought so from the moment I saw it back in 1968 or whenever it aired even though I was only, like, 10. The Obelisk is kind of cool...but it's also really derivative of other things we'd already seen in Trek, the plot is hackneyed and sappy and full of holes, the coincidences are ridiculous, the regular characters act out of character, and I just loathe it.
Also, I knew even back then that American Indians didn't really look like that. I know, I know - we aren't on Earth so they aren't actual American Indians, but if they are going to give us a people who wear the kinds of things and do the kinds of things American Indians are supposed to wear and do (sort of - that's another problem, actually), they could have done a better job of it, even in 1968.
But it does look cool - that it was shot outdoors, I mean, instead of on a set.
And I thought so from the moment I saw it back in 1968 or whenever it aired even though I was only, like, 10. The Obelisk is kind of cool...but it's also really derivative of other things we'd already seen in Trek, the plot is hackneyed and sappy and full of holes, the coincidences are ridiculous, the regular characters act out of character, and I just loathe it.
Also, I knew even back then that American Indians didn't really look like that. I know, I know - we aren't on Earth so they aren't actual American Indians, but if they are going to give us a people who wear the kinds of things and do the kinds of things American Indians are supposed to wear and do (sort of - that's another problem, actually), they could have done a better job of it, even in 1968.
But it does look cool - that it was shot outdoors, I mean, instead of on a set.
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i've always liked paradise syndrome.i always enjoyed where the indians lived and the temple left by the preservers.i saw it again about two weeks ago and enjoyed it as much as when i always have.
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