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Ant-Man: Info, Pics, Rumors, Casting and Details till release

Grantland has an interesting perspective on the Wright/Marvel debacle:

When Wright signed on, Iron Man was still two years down the road and Marvel was an upstart studio looking to build buzz with help from cool directors. In 2014, it’s a Disney subsidiary with a slate of interlocking super-tentpole movies whiteboarded up through 2021, by which time all our moviegoing decisions will be determined by the iron will of Ultron anyway. In a plan that complex, there can’t be much room for the potentially boat-rocking visions of auteurs, no matter how much fan loyalty they command. The analogy you hear most often is that the MCU films have become like a giant TV series with Feige in the showrunner’s chair, and that writers and directors who participate in the process are required to deliver a brick that fits in the wall. Consistency matters. And these movies are all so intertwined from a business/perception perspective that Marvel can no longer afford to roll the dice on a hip, genre-subverting superhero film that might not do Winter Soldier numbers on its opening weekend. Letting Wright walk away makes Marvel look bad to film-geek Twitter, but if the box-office headline after Ant-Man opened were anything but ANT-MAN SQUASHES COMPETITION, it would call into question the viability of the whole Movieverse.

Yeah, that sounds about right to me. :)
 
I'm not sure if this has been posted here or not, but this video brilliantly emphasizes why Edgar Wright is a brilliant visual director that understands visual comedy. Interestingly enough, the video compares Wright's stylish, innovative comedy to the likes of Adam McKay.

The video really drives home how depressing and disappointing it is that Wright left the project. It also conveniently drives home how mundane and straightforward a lot of McKay's comedy is - including other contemporary comedy directors. Wright finds fun, visual and unique techniques to present comedy that is both funny, inventive and serves the plot. It's the kind of comedy we need more of in movies - which is why I was so excited for Edgar Wright's Ant-Man.

I'm far less excited for Peyton Reed and Adam McKay's Ant-Man, but I think Out of My Vulcan Mind hit the nail on the head. Disney likely wanted a less quirky/more straightforward approach and Edgar Wright doesn't do that. It's just a shame. Ant-Man might still be good, but I'll always wonder how much different & possibly better Edgar Wright's version would have been.

This was a great video showcasing the brilliance of Edgar Wright's directorial style. High Praise.

Didn't know about the Fellner thing. Perspective change made.

Yeah, I was going to mention that but someone beat me to it. They were doing in for a friend, no other reason.
 
<<Consistency matters. And these movies are all so intertwined from a business/perception perspective that Marvel can no longer afford to roll the dice on a hip, genre-subverting superhero film that might not do Winter Soldier numbers on its opening weekend. >>

What about Guardians of the Galaxy, then? That's completely out of the box. It doesn't even take place on Earth and Space-Liberace is the villain :lol:
 
Honestly, this sounds like a good decision. I'm a big fan of the Marvel movies, and if a movie isn't going to fit because of the director, then that's too bad. But, I trust the people in charge of making Marvel movies. I've liked all the ones they've made, and I think they'd know if a movie wasn't going to fit well with the universe. Plus, I'm not a fan of the Wright movies I've seen.

Shawn of the Dead was ok I guess, but more quirky than funny (I don't think it even made me chuckle). Scott Pilgrim vs. the World on the other hand was outright horrible. Honestly, while I'm not saying Wright couldn't have made a good Antman movie, I liked Yes Man more than the wright films I've seen anyway. I was already hopeful that Antman would be good, but it sounds like they've gotten a director who'll make a movie fits better in the universe. That's a reason for me to still be excited about Antman.
 
Given the NDA, I'm sure there would be serious repercussions of that. Plus, I'm not going to read it until after I see the movie anyway. Given this, I'd rather it be released officially after, which is what I was talking about.
 
Shawn of the Dead was ok I guess, but more quirky than funny (I don't think it even made me chuckle). Scott Pilgrim vs. the World on the other hand was outright horrible.



:guffaw: That's a great joke, you're a funny guy :techman:

I'll say that Shawn of the Dead just wasn't my style of humor (honestly I'm not sure what style of humor it is :vulcan:). I thought it had a few good characters, and the story was somewhat entertaining, but it never made me laug or even really got close. But I hate Scott pilgrim. It was obnoxious, the story was bad, and the characters were annoying. Also, Michael Cera is a pretty bad in everything I've seen him in, and this movie was no exception.
 
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I loved Scott Pilgrim, but I can see how that isn't everyone's cup of tea.

In regards to the Ant-Man & Edgar Wright situation, for me personally it is much easier to believe Disney - which acquired Marvel a couple years ago - had an issue with the script than Kevin Fiege or Marvel had an issue with it. Marvel knew what they were investing in back in 2006 when they hired Edgar Wright to co-write & direct Ant-Man. According to rumors, during the recent debacle Kevin Fiege was actually in Wright's corner. Apparently it was Disney, who probably thought Wright's version was too daring or risky, who wanted to homogenize Wright's vision.

In my mind, that makes a lot of sense. According to rumors, when James Gunn was first brought on-board to write & direct Guardians of the Galaxy he delivered a much safer version than Marvel or Fiege was initially expecting. Afterwards, Feige pushed Gunn to go even weirder with it and to put his own spin on it, which he in return did. So it doesn't make sense for a studio that banks on fresh & upcoming talents like Gunn and the Russo Brothers to all of the sudden turn their back on a filmmaker who is renowned for his quirky & stylish approach. If Marvel had a problem with Wright and his take on Ant-Man they could have made this clear several years ago.
 
I loved Scott Pilgrim, but I can see how that isn't everyone's cup of tea.

In regards to the Ant-Man & Edgar Wright situation, for me personally it is much easier to believe Disney - which acquired Marvel a couple years ago - had an issue with the script than Kevin Fiege or Marvel had an issue with it. Marvel knew what they were investing in back in 2006 when they hired Edgar Wright to co-write & direct Ant-Man. According to rumors, during the recent debacle Kevin Fiege was actually in Wright's corner. Apparently it was Disney, who probably thought Wright's version was too daring or risky, who wanted to homogenize Wright's vision.

In my mind, that makes a lot of sense. According to rumors, when James Gunn was first brought on-board to write & direct Guardians of the Galaxy he delivered a much safer version than Marvel or Fiege was initially expecting. Afterwards, Feige pushed Gunn to go even weirder with it and to put his own spin on it, which he in return did. So it doesn't make sense for a studio that banks on fresh & upcoming talents like Gunn and the Russo Brothers to all of the sudden turn their back on a filmmaker who is renowned for his quirky & stylish approach. If Marvel had a problem with Wright and his take on Ant-Man they could have made this clear several years ago.


This is basically my thinking as well. I never understood why everyone was heaping hate on Marvel for this. Disney had a say in this. I'm sure of it.
 
Shawn of the Dead was ok I guess, but more quirky than funny (I don't think it even made me chuckle). Scott Pilgrim vs. the World on the other hand was outright horrible.



:guffaw: That's a great joke, you're a funny guy :techman:

I'll say that Shawn of the Dead just wasn't my style of humor (honestly I'm not sure what style of humor it is :vulcan:). I thought it had a few good characters, and the story was somewhat entertaining, but it never made me laug or even really got close. But I hate Scott pilgrim. It was obnoxious, the story was bad, and the characters were annoying. Also, Michael Cera is a pretty bad in everything I've seen him in, and this movie was no exception.

I'll bother to take you seriously when you bother to spell the name of the movie correctly.
 
:guffaw: That's a great joke, you're a funny guy :techman:

I'll say that Shawn of the Dead just wasn't my style of humor (honestly I'm not sure what style of humor it is :vulcan:). I thought it had a few good characters, and the story was somewhat entertaining, but it never made me laug or even really got close. But I hate Scott pilgrim. It was obnoxious, the story was bad, and the characters were annoying. Also, Michael Cera is a pretty bad in everything I've seen him in, and this movie was no exception.

I'll bother to take you seriously when you bother to spell the name of the movie correctly.


:rolleyes: How dare I spell the name of a movie I thought was just ok wrong (although I didn't actually spell the word wrong, just differently than the movie does)? Its almost like, while I don't dislike the movie, I really don't care enough about it to remember how it spells a first name that has legitimate alternative spellings :lol:
 
It doesn't matter if it's a different way to spell the same name, it's still not the way it's spelled in the title, so it's still wrong.
 
It doesn't matter if it's a different way to spell the same name, it's still not the way it's spelled in the title, so it's still wrong.

It was also a nitpick. No one is going to misunderstand what movie I'm talking about because I didn't know how the movie spelled Shaun.
 
I loved the entire "Cornetto Trilogy".

Shaun of the Dead

Hot Fuzz
The World's End

Of course I was also a fan of Spaced.

In addition... I've only seen it once, but I I liked Scott Pilgrim vs. The World way more than I disliked it.

All-in-all, Wright, Pegg, & Frost have sold me on their particular way of doing things and have shown me that they tend to make projects I'll enjoy so I'm bummed about losing Ant-Man in their voice, but I'm still going to see Ant-Man. Just not anywhere near as excited or motivated to see it as I was before the shakeup.
 
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