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Spoilers Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania grade and discussion thread

How do you rate Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?

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Yeah, I don't see how they could be "trapped" since this is a problem the last movie spent it's entire runtime solving, and to such a degree that the very same technology was repurposed to pull off the time heist in 'Endgame'. Getting them back really should have been that simple.

Now, if their getting out at the end there was somehow not what it appears, and they were in-fact sent to some other part of the multiverse (like say one controlled or even created as a prison by whichever version of Kang exiled the "The Conqueror" in the first place) while "our" variants of Cassie, Janet & Hank have no clue where they disappeared to, that'd be something else. That would preserve whatever they may have had planned for the characters down the road having to escape from their fate, only now it's not the Quantum Realm but some Truman Show/Matrix/They Live/Negative Zone type reality prison.
 
Saul said:
Thor Love and Thunder
Eternals
Black Widow
Doctor Strange and The Multiverse of Madness

Movies that could be so much better but feel rushed and unfocused.
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Huh? Dr Strange 2 and Thor 4 made a fuck ton of money. People obviously thought they were good movies.
 
Saul said:
Thor Love and Thunder
Eternals
Black Widow
Doctor Strange and The Multiverse of Madness

Movies that could be so much better but feel rushed and unfocused.
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Eternals especially didn't feel rushed or unfocused.
It was just dull. But certainly doesn't feel like they just pumped it out quickly.

I don't think one complaint fits all for any of the problems one might see for any of these movies. Which means there isn't a simple blanket solution to "fix" them. Not that movies like Ant-Man needs fixing. The things in the trailer that turned people off from seeing the movie would have been in the movie, "rushed and unfocused" or not.
 
Booji said:
Huh? Dr Strange 2 and Thor 4 made a fuck ton of money. People obviously thought they were good movies.
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Those movies were still riding high on the good will marvel fans had for the franchise. But after watching those movies and coming away less than impressed I think the box office of Ant-man is telling. I don't think Ant-man is a bad movie at all and it's certainly way better than Thor Love and Thunder but I think it's been viewed by an audience that has less patience with the marvel product than before.
 
Saul said:
Those movies were still riding high on the good will marvel fans had for the franchise. But after watching those movies and coming away less than impressed I think the box office of Ant-man is telling. I don't think Ant-man is a bad movie at all and it's certainly way better than Thor Love and Thunder but I think it's been viewed by an audience that has less patience with the marvel product than before.
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I loved Thor 4 (it's way better than Ant-Man) and thought Strange 2 was ok. They had zero impact on what I thought of Ant-Man and it's very doubtful they impacted the cash flow for that flick. I just posted in the MCU thread my thoughts on Ant-Man. He's simply waaaaaaaaaay overexposed for a C level character. It's really that simple imo.
 
I saw this in 3-D IMAX at full price and boy do I regret it.

I should have listened to the critics but a 75% fresh audience rating on RT convinced me to take the plunge, but all I got for my $25 was soaked.

I give it about a 25% fresh rate, at best.

The most it has going for it IMO is a fresh new location and some new fun, quirky characters inhabiting this realm.

Once there it is visually beautiful, meeting the new characters is alright, and a couple delightful surprises occur, but once KANG shows up it all goes dark red and about as fresh as every villain story ever told.

Cue what felt like an hour of fight scenes to take a nap to, (I did) wake up just in time to see an uninspired resolution and you're done. Sit through the credits only to find it ain't really as over as you hoped it was, <Terminator> He'll be back!

I really wish I had waited for Disney+ for this one.

ETA
Oh yeah, one other thing, I could not stop thinking about how Michelle Pfeiffer looks like what my head canon says Gates McFadden should look like as Beverly in Picard. lol
 
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Saul said:
https://www.thewrap.com/ant-man-quantumania-record-box-office-weekend-drop/

The film grossed just $8.2 million on its second Friday — a colossal 82% drop from its $46.4 million opening day.

I'm not surprised. Some people will be. Marvel was asking for a kick in the balls and they got it. They can't keep pumping out these kinds of movies and expect audiences to accept it.
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Starscream2112 said:
Ouch!
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The numbers picked up on the weekend. Box Office MOJO reports $31 million for the weekend... but that is preliminary. (I imagine Friday was for adults, who were curious about Cocaine Bear... families seemed to have come out on the weekend, and surpassed Cocaine Bear).

I mean, definitely not Avatar or Black Panther, but not an absolute failure, and we will see what the next couple weeks bring before Shazam.
 
The film did grow on me but the first third is a mess and there's only so much heavy lifting Paul Rudd's innate charm can do. Taking Ant-Man out of the 'real' world robs the film of one of the strengths of the other Ant-Man appearances, namely seeing him interact with out of scale real world objects, instead this feels like a sub par attempt to remake Thor: Ragnarok, even down to getting Bill Murray to riff on Jeff Goldbloom. Far too average to serve as the jumping off point for Phase 5.

The portal opening up again for Scott and Hope did feel really contrived so the change of ending does make sense. Surely they could have come up with something better?

I did enjoy Dr Strange 2 and Thor 4, and I did enjoy this, to a point, but MCU films aren't grabbing me the way they used to, and while I like Majors as Kang, I don't know the multiple versions of him looks like it might get boring quite quickly.
 
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I enjoyed the movie but I can see where people that are fans of the other Ant-Man movies might not care for how out there this one was. Outside the opening minutes this whole thing takes place in the fantastical quantum realm. People that prefer a more grounded setting are going to be disappointed. To be fair, I don't think the trailers were misleading in this regard. I opted to see this in 3D and I suspect it was useful to keep all the graphics from becoming just a big soup.

I feel like somehow I should be more critical of it but it was fine Sunday matinee fare and a pleasant two hour ride.
 
I thought it would have been more interesting if it had been about the work that Hope's company was doing for the post-Blip world or Cassie's activism for post-Blip homeless or the unique challenges Scott had as a reformed criminal turned superhero celebrity...or a movie with all three of those stories.

Instead they go to a place I wasn't that interested in to deal with people I wasn't particularly interested in.
 
Saul said:
Thor Love and Thunder
Eternals
Black Widow
Doctor Strange and The Multiverse of Madness

Movies that could be so much better but feel rushed and unfocused.
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"Eternals" didn't feel rushed to me. That movie and "Black Panther" are the only ones from Phases Three and Four that I have any real respect for. But I did like "Ant-Man & the Wasp", "Captain Marvel" and "Wakanda Forever".
 
I thought Thor 4 was okay, but I LOVED Dr. Strange 2. It's one of those rare times where the sequel far surpassed the original.
 
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