Another Voyager 1st-time watch thread
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I think I'm the only person on the planet that likes "Spirit Folk".
...only because I still think Robert Picardo is great in it.
Another Neelix moment.
If it wasn't for him, the "secret" past of the Vadwaar would never have been uncovered.
Yes, you may well be.
But that's ok. I'm a Chakotay fangirl, and we're rare too.
Life's not fair, is it?I think I'm the only person on the planet that likes "Spirit Folk".
...only because I still think Robert Picardo is great in it.
Another Neelix moment.
If it wasn't for him, the "secret" past of the Vadwaar would never have been uncovered.
Yes, you may well be.
But that's ok. I'm a Chakotay fangirl, and we're rare too.
Yes, you may well be.
But that's ok. I'm a Chakotay fangirl, and we're rare too.
Not that rare. He's got his fans.
I'm okay with the Chakotay character, and I'm pretty sure JR'll back you up! Plus there's VAMB. He does pretty well there. 
EDIT: Oh, and my mother. She's a pro Chakotay fangirl. LOL
Another missed oppertunity, they didn't play up his sex symbol appeal.Yes, you may well be.
But that's ok. I'm a Chakotay fangirl, and we're rare too.
Not that rare. He's got his fans.
EDIT: Oh, and my mother. She's a pro Chakotay fangirl. LOL
Another missed oppertunity, they didn't play up his sex symbol appeal.Yes, you may well be.
But that's ok. I'm a Chakotay fangirl, and we're rare too.
Not that rare. He's got his fans.
EDIT: Oh, and my mother. She's a pro Chakotay fangirl. LOL
Catsuit?
Another missed oppertunity, they didn't play up his sex symbol appeal.Not that rare. He's got his fans.
EDIT: Oh, and my mother. She's a pro Chakotay fangirl. LOL
Catsuit?
Leather pants, really tight leather pants.
Banana hammock speedos?Another missed oppertunity, they didn't play up his sex symbol appeal.Not that rare. He's got his fans.
EDIT: Oh, and my mother. She's a pro Chakotay fangirl. LOL
Catsuit?
Is VAMB still around? I mean, I got into Voyager super late, like a few months ago. LOL. Oh, and I gave up J/C fic for Lent, so...
Is VAMB still around? I mean, I got into Voyager super late, like a few months ago. LOL. Oh, and I gave up J/C fic for Lent, so...
It is. Still alive and kicking
Leather pants, really tight leather pants.
Is VAMB still around? I mean, I got into Voyager super late, like a few months ago. LOL. Oh, and I gave up J/C fic for Lent, so...
It is. Still alive and kicking
Oh, man. This could be trouble.
Awaiting membership approval as we speak! 
After a pretty long weekend, I'm back with...
"One Small Step"
There are a couple things wrong with the episode, but I really liked it, mostly because of John Kelley. It was really his story--the regulars were just there to frame it, though Seven did gain an appreciation for history, so there was some character development there.
The technobabble stuff was a little bit much, and naturally it's another anomaly that they have to improvise an approach for, even though they seem to encounter these things quite a bit.
One jarring thing was Turkey Platter's "And that's all she wrote" after Lt. Kelley's transmission ended. It just seems way too glib for someone who's supposedly watching the last seconds of his boyhood hero's life. I couldn't imagine myself saying that after hearing, "Challenger, throttle up." It was tasteless enough to pull me out of the story for a minute.
Does anyone else agree, or am I just too sensitive?
Kelley gives what might be the best Captain Kirk speech in history at the end, one that really makes the episode for me.
The Seven personal growth stuff is nice too, but she's almost insubordinate to Chakotay there.
And I don't understand why they did the space torpedo funeral at the end. Why go through the trouble of taking his body back to the ship if you're just going to shoot it back out into the Delta Quadrant? I thought Seven was going to stop the service and say they should bring his remains back to Earth, or Mars.
"One Small Step"
There are a couple things wrong with the episode, but I really liked it, mostly because of John Kelley. It was really his story--the regulars were just there to frame it, though Seven did gain an appreciation for history, so there was some character development there.
The technobabble stuff was a little bit much, and naturally it's another anomaly that they have to improvise an approach for, even though they seem to encounter these things quite a bit.
One jarring thing was Turkey Platter's "And that's all she wrote" after Lt. Kelley's transmission ended. It just seems way too glib for someone who's supposedly watching the last seconds of his boyhood hero's life. I couldn't imagine myself saying that after hearing, "Challenger, throttle up." It was tasteless enough to pull me out of the story for a minute.
Does anyone else agree, or am I just too sensitive?
Kelley gives what might be the best Captain Kirk speech in history at the end, one that really makes the episode for me.
The Seven personal growth stuff is nice too, but she's almost insubordinate to Chakotay there.
And I don't understand why they did the space torpedo funeral at the end. Why go through the trouble of taking his body back to the ship if you're just going to shoot it back out into the Delta Quadrant? I thought Seven was going to stop the service and say they should bring his remains back to Earth, or Mars.
I also wondered why they didn't have the funeral in the Mess Hall and invite everyone the way they normally did. ???
Maybe they were going for an extra layer of formality? *shrug* It certainly is different than what we've seen.
Anyways, I'm mega-super-fond of this episode. It gets me teary. I particularly like how they tell us who the true pioneers of space exploration are - I think too many people pooh-pooh spending money on space exploration in favor of spending more money on war and killing each other. It takes balls to go to space.
Paris' line struck me as sad and wistful. I dunno. Just me, though.
And I think the "technobabble" bit where the Flyer is inside the yellow subspace bubble thingie and VOY is communicating from the outside is supposed to be a homage to the present-day space program.
Voyager's bridge is Mission Control, and the Flyer is the ISS/a shuttle/an Apollo capsule/etc.
Considering that what they might have done with the premise, this was a gem. I can imagine them having Voyager fly through the anomaly and fend off a Borg invasion of Mars or something like that. I'm glad it was more of a character study.
I love everything about this ep.
As for "why bring him back if you are just going to shoot him out again" question.
I think its that "we leave no-one behind" rule.
It was "our choice" to bury him in the deep recesses of space... it was the ellipses' choice to keep him from us by taking him back to subspace. Seven wasn't going to let that happen to Kelley again if she could help it.
I agree that the funeral on the bridge was "more formal" for a Starfleet legend... and yet I loved that quiet little moment at the end, when Seven reached for his humanity and found her own as she said... "The Yankees, in six games. "
As for "why bring him back if you are just going to shoot him out again" question.
I think its that "we leave no-one behind" rule.
It was "our choice" to bury him in the deep recesses of space... it was the ellipses' choice to keep him from us by taking him back to subspace. Seven wasn't going to let that happen to Kelley again if she could help it.
I agree that the funeral on the bridge was "more formal" for a Starfleet legend... and yet I loved that quiet little moment at the end, when Seven reached for his humanity and found her own as she said... "The Yankees, in six games. "
He deserved a decent funeral.
He made history and he died all alone without anyone remembering him.
They brought him back over because it's the honorable thing to do.
I think seeing how badly the body was decayed and there was no promise Voyager would actually get back to Earth. It was smart to leave the body behind.
I loved this episode. It got a high mark from both me and my husband when we first watched it a few weeks ago. I loved how you could see Seven starting to care about Lt. Kelly the more she listened to his logs. At the end when she told who won the world series, there wasn't a dry eye in my living room.
Fun fact courtesy of Memory Alpha: the actor who played John Kelly, Phil Morris, also had guest roles in The Original Series and DS9.
Fun fact courtesy of Memory Alpha: the actor who played John Kelly, Phil Morris, also had guest roles in The Original Series and DS9.
Before we go on, I want to share a couple of facts with you.
August 10, 2010. Not quite knowing what he's getting into, Shatnertage starts a thread on his experiences watching Voyager. He's pleasantly surprised by the reactions to his post about "The Thaw," and decides to continue.
September 1, 2010. T.D. Possum confesses that she, too, likes "Sub Rosa," but finds "Remember" unmemorable.
November 6, 2010: JanewayRulz! spills the beans about Harry Kim's poor choices in women...something I will soon learn is all too true.
January 11, 2011: exodus makes an "Equinox" reference that I didn't get at the time.
March 3, 2011: Markira says she's starting to feel at home on the TBBS.
March 10, 2011: froot posts a picture of a unicorn.
It's all connected somehow, just like...
"The Voyager Conspiracy"
I really liked this episode--it was a lot of fun, with some good comedy stuff mixed in with serious themes about trust. It's definitely what they call a "high-concept episode," but thankfully it doesn't involve DNA being rewritten. It's just about what happens when you try to digest more information than you can handle.
There are a few really good threads in here. Seven's growing paranoia is one, but the way she turns Janeway and Chakotay against each other is another. I really liked their scene at the Borg alcove--it almost seemed liked something out of a romantic comedy. Kate Mulgrew really did that sort of thing well.
I loved all of the conspiracy theory talk, and that alien was actually pretty cool. Even his strange hand gestures were neat. I hope he made it hope.
Did they use the catapult in the end? I forget.
Of course, the icing on the cake is NaomiWildman and Seven getting scenes together. Funny, but touching at the same time.
Another great episode. I feel like I've been on a roll.
August 10, 2010. Not quite knowing what he's getting into, Shatnertage starts a thread on his experiences watching Voyager. He's pleasantly surprised by the reactions to his post about "The Thaw," and decides to continue.
September 1, 2010. T.D. Possum confesses that she, too, likes "Sub Rosa," but finds "Remember" unmemorable.
November 6, 2010: JanewayRulz! spills the beans about Harry Kim's poor choices in women...something I will soon learn is all too true.
January 11, 2011: exodus makes an "Equinox" reference that I didn't get at the time.
March 3, 2011: Markira says she's starting to feel at home on the TBBS.
March 10, 2011: froot posts a picture of a unicorn.
It's all connected somehow, just like...
"The Voyager Conspiracy"
I really liked this episode--it was a lot of fun, with some good comedy stuff mixed in with serious themes about trust. It's definitely what they call a "high-concept episode," but thankfully it doesn't involve DNA being rewritten. It's just about what happens when you try to digest more information than you can handle.
There are a few really good threads in here. Seven's growing paranoia is one, but the way she turns Janeway and Chakotay against each other is another. I really liked their scene at the Borg alcove--it almost seemed liked something out of a romantic comedy. Kate Mulgrew really did that sort of thing well.
I loved all of the conspiracy theory talk, and that alien was actually pretty cool. Even his strange hand gestures were neat. I hope he made it hope.
Did they use the catapult in the end? I forget.
Of course, the icing on the cake is NaomiWildman and Seven getting scenes together. Funny, but touching at the same time.
Another great episode. I feel like I've been on a roll.
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