Anime is dying
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An oldie but a......well an oldie: Sailor Bubba!
That could turn anyone off anime.That's cosplay from Hell!
Looks like many of the women in my neck of Southeastern Michigan.
My only fear is about he monster that rise up to supplant Animal, some sort of PostAnime.
The same but more intense for heartier souls.
The same but more intense for heartier souls.
Um. What?
Anyhoo, sub vs dubbed - I understand wanting to hear it in its native saoundtrack, but if I want to read I'll pick up a book. I enjoy the art, and I want to watch the artistry of the images. Can't do that while trying to read the screen, especially with my eyesight and slight dyslexia. And more especially when they decide to subtitle a background song and there are translations running top AND bottom of the screen, sometimes in multiple lines.
I like anime, but I agree that a lot of anime are bad. But I have some memorable anime that I like until now.
and one of them (maybe because it looks like Star Trek) was an anime series that called " Mugen no Ryvius" / Infinite Ryvius. It was not perfect, as for example, I witness a giant transformable robot in it, and I dare to say that there were several plot hole on it. But, I love it.
If you like Star Trek, maybe you will like Infinite Ryvius too.
and one of them (maybe because it looks like Star Trek) was an anime series that called " Mugen no Ryvius" / Infinite Ryvius. It was not perfect, as for example, I witness a giant transformable robot in it, and I dare to say that there were several plot hole on it. But, I love it.
If you like Star Trek, maybe you will like Infinite Ryvius too.
I think part of the reason I'm not running into it might be more due to the fact that I'm sticking to more of the stuff geared twoards a slightly younger audience, like Naruto, Bleach, and Fullmetal Alchemist and stay away from the more sexual/fan service type stuff. Perhaps it's more common in the stuff geared toward adults?Yeah... funny thing about that, I don't need my parents to tell me not to enjoy watching children being sexualized. It just doesn't float my boat. Sorry, I guess.
I don't really see this problem as being too prevalent for anime watchers in this age of technology. It's REALLY easy to avoid that type with some simple research such as Youtube searches. Usually, the fanservice type plasters the opening, endings, or trailers with it and it's easy to spot.
Yeah, it is, when I look for myself. It is merely unfortunate when a show I might have been interested in turns me off in that way, but I guess it turns just as many people *on* by doing that, so I won't be one to judge. Like I said, I've found a few series I have enjoyed. Just not as many as I expected. Not enough to consider myself an "anime fan", but I like what I like.
Personally, I just find it a source of amusement rather than a turn on. If it tries to sexualize girls under 14, or becomes too excessive I'm gonna' drop it though. Either way it's not my favorite type of anime.
If I wasn't out of town right now and away from my DVD collection, I would compile a pretty good list of safe and intelligent series for you. I can when I get back in a few days though if you want.
No more than a casual Star Trek watcher can be creeped out by the hardcore Trekies or those freaks who show up at sporting events with body paint. Everything has it's fanatics.
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Monsters. Every last one of you.And don't get me started on Princess Leia on a leash.
Anyway, as far as objectified women (and girls), yeah, anime can be kind of shitty that way. Along with most every other form of entertainment on Earth (Titian: Renaissance pornographer). Which isn't to excuse it. It bugs the shit out of me when I see it, but I don't see it very often, because it's not rocket science to avoid, or stop watching, that kind of thing. If you're discerning.
And I am discerning.
My bigger problem with a lot of anime series is the animation is actually pretty Goddamned trash. Seriously. I think maybe three or four shows I've seen actually look like they have the same budget as comparable American productions. And the aesthetics can be even worse. If you've watched any late-era Gundam series, you know what I mean. Ugliest fucking things on the planet, because 1)they're cheap and 2)they're clearly made by people who like ugly things for people who have no eyes.
Does not apply across the board, to be sure. GitS looked great. Last Exile looked great most of the time (the CGI was not always very well-played). But there are a lot of shortcuts taken in most everything. I mean, it's been a while, but I think 90% of Evangelion was stock footage from the first five or six episodes.
And that brings us back full circle. Evangelion earned the right to be fucked up because it acknowledges explicitly that it's all fucked up. Okay, I can roll with that. Then there's the five hundred other sexually off-putting series that even more disturbingly appear to believe they're normal.
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No just nonsensical crap to sell Bandai model kits to otaku.
The mecha designs themselves, while over-the-top in SEED (lol), aren't my main problem. Reasonable minds may differ. I guess. The ones in 00 were certainly tons better. (Although that one that Tiera had--iirc; the purple-headed, nearsighted transman--with the hair looked pretty stupid.) Well, until they went Trans Am (ugh).
Nah, it's the aesthetics of how battles looked in SEED (lol) onward. And 00 was probably about as bad.
"Pink! I need more pink! MORE PINK THAN A DRUNKEN MALL SANTA'S FACE ON CHRISTMAS EVE! MORE PINK THAN ALL THE PORNOGRAPHY IN THE WESTERN WORLD! NOW MAKE IT FLICKER AND SHINE AS WOULD A PINK AND ORANGE SUPERNOVA!"
Like, in the old shows (Wing, 08th Team, MSG in its various forms, and probably the ones I never saw), the battles often tended to look cheap (depending on the importance of the scene, usually), but they didn't look like the animation director was a guy who couldn't keep down his antacid.
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Steamboy, Howl's Moving Castle, Appleseed, Castle in the Sky ... all have decent to great designs, artwork and animation.
Oooh, Elfen Lied is awesome, too, but it does have sexualized teens in it.
Hating all anime because most is really shitty is like hating all TV because it's not all Deadwood or The Sopranos or The Shield or The Wire, etc. Stop watching Tyler Perry's shows and track down the good stuff.
Oooh, Elfen Lied is awesome, too, but it does have sexualized teens in it.
Hating all anime because most is really shitty is like hating all TV because it's not all Deadwood or The Sopranos or The Shield or The Wire, etc. Stop watching Tyler Perry's shows and track down the good stuff.
I have to admit to often watching the subtitles instead of the action, and the top and bottom thing is indeed a pain. When that happens my crystal ball usually sees a rewind in the immediate future. But I'm looking at these things as a type of foreign film. Like if I was watching a film made in Germany, I wouldn't want to see it dubbed into English. I would want to see it with the German audio.
Monsters. Every last one of you.And don't get me started on Princess Leia on a leash.
Thank you very much, I try my best to be so.
Well said.
The industry isn't in fantastic shape, but it's enduring. I work at several conventions in the Mid-Atlantic region (Anime USA, Anime Mid-Atlantic, Katsucon being the most notable, and I worked at Otakon one year), and it certainly seems to be holding up pretty well.
A lot of new Anime doesn't really do it for me, but I can still watch something like "Paprika", and believe it to be one of the most beautiful films, period, I've ever seen in my life.
Eh,
I've watched at least 100 episodes of InuYasha (Which I've enjoyed, but, it does get repetitive, they should've have an end date in mind, and had a definitive arc, then it really would've been awesome).
I've seen several episodes of Bleach and Death Note (neither much appealed to me). And also a few episodes of the one where the boy becomes a panda Bear(?). I've seen Peach Girl (Which I believe is Korean?). Final Fantasy two movies I enjoy. Watched StarBlazers years ago.
None of these has this sexualization of young girls, so, personally, I've never seen anything pertaining to these complaints, so, I'm assuming this must be a specialized taste, that isn't prevalent throughout the Medium, but, something you have to be looking specifically for
Although, it's American, it's reminiscint of Anime, Avatar: The Last Air Bender was pretty awesome.
So, I enjoy a bit of Anime and Animated Series with Arcs.
I've watched at least 100 episodes of InuYasha (Which I've enjoyed, but, it does get repetitive, they should've have an end date in mind, and had a definitive arc, then it really would've been awesome).
I've seen several episodes of Bleach and Death Note (neither much appealed to me). And also a few episodes of the one where the boy becomes a panda Bear(?). I've seen Peach Girl (Which I believe is Korean?). Final Fantasy two movies I enjoy. Watched StarBlazers years ago.
None of these has this sexualization of young girls, so, personally, I've never seen anything pertaining to these complaints, so, I'm assuming this must be a specialized taste, that isn't prevalent throughout the Medium, but, something you have to be looking specifically for
Although, it's American, it's reminiscint of Anime, Avatar: The Last Air Bender was pretty awesome.
So, I enjoy a bit of Anime and Animated Series with Arcs.
Exactly. Talk about low production values (I'm meaning pre-nuWho here).
Actually (if I remember right) Inuyasha towards the last part had several episodes that seemed to form a definitive arc. Going towards the Naraku showdown.
Except they ended that run almost mid-story (think Two Towers), since they had caught up to the manga and went on hiatus.
Finally Japan did finish the entire Inuyasha run on TV, and last year there was some talk of Viz dubbing this new batch of episodes. But I don't know if Cartoon Network/Adult Swim ever broadcast those shows or not. (If they did, I missed it!
) I wanted to watch the remaining shows. Does anybody know whether they are starting that soon?Sesh-shomaru forever!
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