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Spoilers Andor season one

Am I the only one that thought that for a moment there, Meero was going to get torn apart/beaten to death by the crowd? Denise Gough did a great job selling he sheer terror and desperation. For all her strutting around, projecting power; when it comes down to it she vastly overestimates her capabilities in the face of a real rebellion. Another recurring Imperial failing.
Yeah, I was thinking we might be seeing the last of her. She wound up in a situation she ill prepared for and it almost cost her life. The sheer look of terror on her face was perfect.
 
Loved the end credit scene, but I have to wonder... Isn't it too soon to see it almost completed? They're still five years BBY, and at that point, for all we know, it had only been partially tested on Jedda and Scarif, and then on Alderan.

Then again, maybe that was mostly just outer shell and they were still dry walling and painting on the inside. The marble countertops from Naboo arrive on Tuesday.

That's my guess. The superlaser system is still being constructed and the long cannon of the weapon is still just a skeletal shape. And we learned in Rogue One that the main weapon was the biggest technological hurdle. The rest of the battle station was easier by comparison.
 
Damn, this was a fantastic finale.
The whole buildup of tension with the two funeral processions, and then Maarva's speech, leading to the kid throwing the bomb was just phenomenal.
There was one thing I wasn't real clear on though, the guy telling the Imperials which building Cassian was in was part of his plan right? He just did that to empty out the hotel so Cassian could save Bix?
I have to confess, I did not pick up on what Mon Mothma was doing to her husband until I saw the posts about it on here. That's pretty messed up, and I was pretty shocked she actually went through with her daughter being paired up with the other guy's son. From last week it sounded like her daughter was OK with it, so at least she wasn't being forced into it.
I definitely agree with other people on here who thought Meero was gonna die when she got attacked by the crowd.
I had already predicted that they might have been working on Death Star parts at the prison, but that was still a pretty cool way to end the season. It was a nice bit of foreshadowing of what Cassian will face in the future.
It will be interesting to see what kind of time jump we'll start with next season. From some of the comments I've read for the people involved it sounds like we'll geting a bit of a different format. It sounds like we'll be getting four story arcs with a some time jumps between them. We got some of that here, but it sounds like it'll be more significant next season. I'm not sure if we even covered a year here, and next season will cover four.
 
Another shout out to the ST in this episode. Either someone on the Andor writing staff is a ST fan, or they've been directed to put in these references.
 
Another shout out to the ST in this episode. Either someone on the Andor writing staff is a ST fan, or they've been directed to put in these references.

You don't need to be a fan of it to reference things from it. Canto Bight is a known casino planet. It was either suggested by the story group or put in by one of the writers that knows Star Wars.

Post-Finale interview with Tony
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...-2-post-credits-scene-tony-gilroy-1235268962/
 
The fear and smallness of the Imperials as the population of Ferrix rose up against the garrison was visceral, just as most occupying troops of a tyranny throughout history look and behave small when the locals rise up to regain their liberty.


And yet they still basically won. A crowd basically mowed down. Which adds to the terror of the empire.

I've faced down riot cops in Occupy, BLM, antifa stuff. And they're often more of them than in the show, and a lot more judicious with the beating though they need to get the move order without the firing of lethal rounds, hah. That whole scene had me tense.

Totally agree on the first part. It was unnecessary and the kind of dumb fan service that the show has been completely above up until that point.

I don't think she's setting him up to "take the fall", rather she's just trying to come up with an explanation for the missing money that'll satisfy the Empire and keep them off her back.

After all, it's not a crime to lose your own money gambling.

It is, however, a little odd that Mothma did both the gambling ploy AND the Davo Sculdun introduction. No need to explain away your missing funds twice.

I did not think they would A) Do the betrothal thing, B) keep the manifesto and C) show what the parts are for. The latter two feel, especially the parts, feels like executive meddling form up high.... The betrothal feels organic though, would had liked for mon to stick to her guns, get pushback from the daughter but the daughter is loving this.
 
I have to confess, I did not pick up on what Mon Mothma was doing to her husband until I saw the posts about it on here. That's pretty messed up, and I was pretty shocked she actually went through with her daughter being paired up with the other guy's son. From last week it sounded like her daughter was OK with it, so at least she wasn't being forced into it.
It made sense to me. Mon Mothma had to make a choice: she could either continue to ride the line, trying to keep both aspects of her world together in a tenuous, uneasy precarious state destined to fail in one way or the other, or she could pick a side with her whole heart. One of them had to come out on top: The rebellion and all it represented, or trying to hold on to her family, who were fully and happily complicit with the Empire and everything it represented.

She chose the rebellion, even though I'm sure it hurt to put her daughter in that position. As you said, though, her daughter was loving it, just as before the revolution there were young royals who imagined themselves taking seats in high offices to preside over and dictate the lives of the common people whether they liked it or not.

Just so much great political and social commentary in this series.
 
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And yet they still basically won. A crowd basically mowed down. Which adds to the terror of the empire.
And all so that Bix could get out. Hope she was worth it.

On an unrelated note, did anyone else think we were going to get to actually see the Kreegyr takedown? That whole thing happening offscreen surprised me.
 
Theme of the episode: you aren't in until you're all in. Luthen has been all in from the moment we met him, but the reason he's so damned skittish around everybody is that he knows THEY aren't. It's why the only person who gets his guard down is Saw, who is every bit as committed.

But now Cass and Mon are IN. Seeing things develop like this, with one from the top and one from the absolute bottom both reaching the same conclusion for their own reasons in these moments was kind of fascinating. I, justifiably, gave this show a lot of crap early on. And I still think those early episodes did the general audience a disservice to an extent. But the payoff was well worth it.
 
Theme of the episode: you aren't in until you're all in. Luthen has been all in from the moment we met him, but the reason he's so damned skittish around everybody is that he knows THEY aren't. It's why the only person who gets his guard down is Saw, who is every bit as committed.

But now Cass and Mon are IN. Seeing things develop like this, with one from the top and one from the absolute bottom both reaching the same conclusion for their own reasons in these moments was kind of fascinating. I, justifiably, gave this show a lot of crap early on. And I still think those early episodes did the general audience a disservice to an extent. But the payoff was well worth it.
Indeed. Once they were all in, there was this tonal shift. Now it wasn't just some hypothetical situation, it was a full commitment to something that could very well end up killing you and everyone you love. When you've put everything on the line, when you see yourself as a dead man walking, there is nothing left to lose and everything to gain from fighting until the last man.
 
I got the impression Luthen was moved by Marvaa's speech.
I figure it was a little of both. Marvaa's speech reinvigorated him, and made him rethink his need to kill Cassian, to maybe reconsider his approach to how he was attempting to cut off a dangerous thread.

This was confirmed (for me) later when, finding Cassian aboard his ship, Luthen made no immediate move to kill Cassian, instead asking him "what game is this?" upon being challenged, and Cassian told him that he was either going to have to kill him or take him in, which I believe reaffirmed for Luthen that Cassian was now completely onboard with the rebellion, thus negating the need to actually go through with killing him.

At least, that's how I interpreted it.
 
Wow, was that a genuine smile from Luthen? :eek:
This was a great finish to the season. I wonder what will become of Dedra and Syril.
And how about that post-credits scene? :techman:

Kor
 
I did not think they would A) Do the betrothal thing, B) keep the manifesto and C) show what the parts are for. The latter two feel, especially the parts, feels like executive meddling form up high.... The betrothal feels organic though, would had liked for mon to stick to her guns, get pushback from the daughter but the daughter is loving this.

Come on. The manifesto was a huge, deeply organic part of the show and of Cassian's journey. You knew it was going to play an important part from the second it was introduced, this was just the payoff.
 
Another shout out to the ST in this episode. Either someone on the Andor writing staff is a ST fan, or they've been directed to put in these references.

It was an organic reference, not because anyone is or is not a fan of the ST, but because it was the only established "casino planet" in canon. That's how it works.

And all so that Bix could get out. Hope she was worth it.

It's not like Cassian or Bix caused the riot.

It was going to happen anyway.

On an unrelated note, did anyone else think we were going to get to actually see the Kreegyr takedown? That whole thing happening offscreen surprised me.

No. That entire subplot existed entirely in conversations of our main characters. We never met Kreeger once. Why would the ending be any different? Would have been a waste of time better spent on the show's actual characters.

The point of the Kreeger subplot was just to show how ruthless/dedicated Luthen is.
 
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