Spoilers Andor season one

[Set Harth]

Someone mentioned how the pattern seems to be slow episode, slow episode, action episode. When you drop three episodes at once you can get away with that, but when there's two weeks between slow episode #1 and action episode, and with the shorter episode length, the pace becomes a bit grueling.

 

[Arpy]

I don’t need an action episode. Last week’s calm before the storm was pretty good. My only complaint was that it ended. It’s a slow burn but one that could really pay off. Like in Rogue One. This is what life is like on the ground before you get to the star destroyers and Sith lords. Just the look and style of it is satisfying, let alone the wider view of the galaxy. It’s sophisticated and mature, and as an adult, I really enjoy it.

 

[fireproof78]

It’s a slow burn but one that could really pay off. Like in Rogue One.

Hopefully better than Rogue One.

 

[Commander Troi]

So, who what's to put money on Nemik 1) dying very soon, and 2) his manifesto living on in the Rebellion, if not foundational to the ideal of the Alliance.

1) I think that's a Sure Thing.
2) Maybe. It would be wonderfully tragic if his manifesto gets lost.

 

[Arpy]

Hopefully better than Rogue One.

Sure, though they’d be lucky to pull off such a feat. Rogue One was among the top 3 greatest Star Wars films of all time.

 

[fireproof78]

Sure, though they’d be lucky to pull off such a feat. Rogue One was among the top 3 greatest Star Wars films of all time.

Mileage will vary.

 

[Arpy]

Mileage will vary.

Mercifully there’s a Star Wars (and a Star Trek) for ever more and more people. I find this series more satisfying than maybe all but one other, and it’s on course to blow the lot of them out of the galaxy if it goes where I think it might. Is wish it were a year and a half from now and I could binge the first couple seasons at once.

Throwing out The Expanse and For All Mankind as another couple of great sci-fi series that are also very binge-able.

 

[Ithekro]

Since Mon Mothma and Bail Organa were part of the Petition of the 2000 under Padme Amidala, I feel they would have started the Rebellions together, but cover different parts. Mon Mothma seems to be doing funding. Bail's doing cell network creation and via Ahsoka's Fulcrum, keeping tabs on cells and where they can get more rebels and delivering war materials to these cells. Luthen seems to be setting up a network of agents to hit the Empire. Finding people with skills.

Since this is 5 BBY, Leia's already junior senator/aide to Bail Organa. Within a year she will be delivering ships to Phoenix Cell on Lothal. Almost at this same time, Bail has R2-D2 and C-3P0 on missions and will encounter the Ghost crew on a mission just after the crew picked up Ezra.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Who gives a shit if it respects some crap Filoni farted out eight years ago if it's a good show? Oy.....

I mean, the whole reason I came to watch it, was because it was set in a particular part of the continuity, before Rogue One and during the start of the rebellion. If it, like you said, decided to then ignore all that, I don't see why I would be watching it to even know if it is a good show. Plus, then it wouldn't be one, because right now it's a slow fascinating ride to somewhere, otherwise it would have been a slow ride to nowhere.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

BTW, Rebels already fucked up Mon Mothma's timeline, since she was clearly intended as still being a sitting senator in Rogue One.

I don't recall anything in the plot of Rogue One that actually requires Mon Mothma to still be a sitting Senator at that point.

There are numerous other Senators shown in the film who are part of the Alliance Council. When Mothma refers to the intention of the Alliance to have Galen Erso brought before the Senate to testify about the Death Star, the task of actually presenting him to the Senate could have been accomplished by any willing sitting allied Senator, not just Mothma herself.

What in the film requires her to still sit in the Senate?

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I don't recall anything in the plot of Rogue One that actually requires Mon Mothma to still be a sitting Senator at that point.

Indeed. It didn't. But I also assumed her to be. In fact, I had stronger memory of that than her resignation speech to the galaxy, so I had to look it up. It works better for Rogue One for sure if she was still a senator, in my mind.

On the other hand, it can work better for Andor, since she's a main character, and she's not safe from being caught if the show continues to points going close to or beyond her resignation.

 

[cooleddie74]

Mon Mothma wore the same dress in ROTJ and there wasn't even an Imperial Senate anymore by that date. There's not a single word in the Rogue One script that says she's still a Senator with a seat from Chandrilla and by that point any pretense of a democratic institution had long since evaporated so she'd likely been gone for a while even if Rebels hadn't shown us when it happened.

 

[fireproof78]

What in the film requires her to still sit in the Senate?

Not a damn thing. This could be the end of her career and she has to coordinate with Bail to get more funding.

 

[Tuskin38]

BTW, Rebels already fucked up Mon Mothma's timeline, since she was clearly intended as still being a sitting senator in Rogue One.

Nothing in the movie said she was still a senator.

The Rebels episode was probably written first. Yes, it aired 3 months after the movie released, but the episodes are usually written around 2 years before they air.

Either way, the creator of Andor has already stated there are important events in the canon that will happen during the time period of the show. I don't think the show is going to knowingly contradict Rebels.

He even brought up Mon Mothma's resignation in an interview, going as far as giving the year of it in BBY. He knows the timeline, or at least the important parts.

 

[Mage]

Someone mentioned how the pattern seems to be slow episode, slow episode, action episode. When you drop three episodes at once you can get away with that, but when there's two weeks between slow episode #1 and action episode, and with the shorter episode length, the pace becomes a bit grueling.

Maybe I'm the weird one, but I have zero issues with the pacing on this show. I like how it's taking its time with set-up and establishing more about surroundings and characters. Even though we haven't gone to deep into the characters yet. And maybe we won't. Maybe it will be more like Rogue One and old war movies. Where the characters are there to help us get to the big event which we already now will happen, and the characters are there. We have limited information, but enough for us to understand why they are there and doing what they're doing.

 

[David cgc]

Mon Mothma wore the same dress in ROTJ and there wasn't even an Imperial Senate anymore by that date. There's not a single word in the Rogue One script that says she's still a Senator with a seat from Chandrilla and by that point any pretense of a democratic institution had long since evaporated so she'd likely been gone for a while even if Rebels hadn't shown us when it happened.

To be fair, she was addressed as "Senator," but that may well signify the opposite. The member-on-the-street of the "Alliance to Restore the Republic" would probably be more inclined to address her as having been a Republic Senator than using the honorific for someone who'd only been in the Imperial Senate ("Princess" probably outranks "Senator" as far as Emily Post goes, or else I'd cite that as an example; but then "Senator" seems to outrank "Prince-Consort" for Bail, so maybe I am right).

Maybe I'm the weird one, but I have zero issues with the pacing on this show. I like how it's taking its time with set-up and establishing more about surroundings and characters. Even though we haven't gone to deep into the characters yet. And maybe we won't. Maybe it will be more like Rogue One and old war movies. Where the characters are there to help us get to the big event which we already now will happen, and the characters are there. We have limited information, but enough for us to understand why they are there and doing what they're doing.

It's starting to feel like this is more a series of six or so movies-of-the-week split into hour-long episodes for distribution reasons. I'm not sure why, I guess this is America, but I'd cite the precedent of "Sherlock" having short seasons of movie-length "episodes." Plus, I'm hoping that the creative framework of the show is "Imagine Rogue One is the season finale, now make the show that leads up to it," which is a tack I've always preferred for prequels.

 

[Set Harth]

I only wish the episodes were an hour long.

 

[fireproof78]

Maybe I'm the weird one, but I have zero issues with the pacing on this show. I like how it's taking its time with set-up and establishing more about surroundings and characters. Even though we haven't gone to deep into the characters yet. And maybe we won't. Maybe it will be more like Rogue One and old war movies. Where the characters are there to help us get to the big event which we already now will happen, and the characters are there. We have limited information, but enough for us to understand why they are there and doing what they're doing.

Pacing isn't bothering me. I think it will flow better once it completely drops as we get a sense of how thus unfolds. The characters need to gel more though. It's a highly dysfunctional situation.

 

[TheForge]

It is going a bit slow, but I'm fine with it. Should be plenty of action coming up. Do they succeed or do things go south?

I am wondering does Andor get caught? In the trailer he was wearing a white jump suit in a scene of two. Prison attire?

 

[fireproof78]

Do they succeed or do things go south?

This is what keeps me coming back. To me, none of the people are trustworthy so their success is constantly in doubt.