Ancient Technology that may or may not be Ahead of its Time, or Even True

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Watt's high-pressure steam engine was key to the industrial revolution, but he also relied on other new technologies to regulate it and prevent it from exploding (too often). I wouldn't be surprised if ancient inventors had tried and failed. Advances in metallurgy, machine tools and control mechanisms were crucial. Improved understanding of thermodynamics went hand-in-hand with the technology and this was catalysed by earlier advances in mathematics.

Sustained technological progress appears to require interconnected advancement rather than a single genius inventor. Language, writing and later the printing press with movable type were the first steps with electricity, telegraph, telephone, electronics, computer, networking and AI being accelerants. We stumbled upon a formula for success that the ancients seemingly didn't. It wasn't guaranteed, just as surviving the results of our cleverness isn't. The required theories of societal organisation appear to be either much less advanced or perhaps suppressed. Do any lead to anything other than a great filter?

What have we missed in our late, giddy ascent up the mountain? Can even AI tell us if it does not have the information necessary to explore the correct region of possible solutions? Are there ranges and peaks beyond our purview?

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

The evidence isn't there but what are the odds of a previous civilisation on Earth before modern man had evolved?

 

[Osol Twist]

^ Other civilisations before Homo Sapiens 300000 years ago ?.... what do we really know about Homo Habilis that existed a couple of million years ago? They might have been much more advanced than we know... Also, how long would it take to completely eradicate any trace of a civilisation? i guess it could be possible that there was a human civilisation 400 million years ago before the dinosaurs.... but i wouldnt bet on it=)

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

^ Other civilisations before Homo Sapiens 300000 years ago ?.... what do we really know about Homo Habilis that existed a couple of million years ago? They might have been much more advanced than we know... Also, how long would it take to completely eradicate any trace of a civilisation? i guess it could be possible that there was a human civilisation 400 million years ago before the dinosaurs.... but i wouldnt bet on it=)

I wouldn't bet on it either but it's one of those things I often wonder about sometimes.

 

[Osol Twist]

one of those things I often wonder about sometimes.

i also wonder this

 

[Osol Twist]

Also "the disk of Sabu".... They say its about 5000 years old but it could be much much older, what the hell was its purpose??

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

i also wonder this

I often lol about the idea of paleontologists digging up a 5000 your old watch or such

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Our garbage can turn rapidly into a mineral layer through the anthropoclastic rock cycle. The elemental signatures will be there for millions of years, but eventually will become hard to find.

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As far as I'm aware the Oklo formation was a naturally formed nuclear reactor:

Natural nuclear fission reactor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Also "the disk of Sabu".... They say its about 5000 years old but it could be much much older, what the hell was its purpose??

I like the idea of it being a water impeller or for smoothing grain or ropes

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

^ Other civilisations before Homo Sapiens 300000 years ago ?.... what do we really know about Homo Habilis that existed a couple of million years ago? They might have been much more advanced than we know... Also, how long would it take to completely eradicate any trace of a civilisation? i guess it could be possible that there was a human civilisation 400 million years ago before the dinosaurs.... but i wouldnt bet on it=)

There weren't any land vertebrates until the Devonian period, approximately 390 to 350 million years ago. The first mammal-like reptiles were the synapsids, which emerged during the Late Carboniferous period, roughly 300 million years ago.

 

[Osol Twist]

I like the idea of it being a water impeller or for smoothing grain or ropes

Yeah i also was thinking something fluid.... but since it is made of such brittle material (schist stone) and are so thin, I think it's unlikely it was made to actually do some work. And it seem too over-engineered to be a bowl or support for a basket that the Egyptologists suggests.
I think it could possibly be a rendering/model of "something" that was observed at one point... this is a head-scratcher. Also, as i understand there was 6 other parts of something like this found on the Sabu tomb site... i have only found one picture of of one of them.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Yeah i also was thinking something fluid.... but since it is made of such brittle material (schist stone) and are so thin, I think it's unlikely it was made to actually do some work. And it seem too over-engineered to be a bowl or support for a basket that the Egyptologists suggests.
I think it could possibly be a rendering/model of "something" that was observed at one point... this is a head-scratcher. Also, as i understand there was 6 other parts of something like this found on the Sabu tomb site... i have only found one picture of of one of them.

Yes, the Sabu disk a real headscratcher - much like the Roman dodecahedra.

Roman dodecahedron - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

However, the so-called Dendera lightbulb is probably a lotus.

Dendera light - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Will The Serious]

Reading about schist, I found out it is heat resistant.
https://sandatlas.org/schist/

Talc schist, also known as soapstone, has been widely used for thousands of years because it withstands heat and does not crack easily. It has been used for cooking vessels, fireplaces, stoves, and carving

Perhaps the Sabu Disc is a brazier meant to be elevated on a pedestal for lighting. The fold-like slaps keep the coal/wood contained while letting firelight filter downward.

-Will

 

[Osol Twist]

Reading about schist, I found out it is heat resistant.
https://sandatlas.org/schist/

Perhaps the Sabu Disc is a brazier meant to be elevated on a pedestal for lighting. The fold-like slaps keep the coal/wood contained while letting firelight filter downward.

-Will

Yeah it could very well be a brazier for lightning, that's not a bad guess. And unfortunately mysteries tend to have mundane explanation so this could absolutely be the answer =) It could be anything else of course.... I wonder what kind of sound wavelength it could make if it was spun in air at a certain rate... (I just googled and found out that the Kings Chamber act as a acoustic resonator,) lol.

the Roman dodecahedra.

Roman dodecahedron - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Roman dodecahedron is also very strange, and they have found so many of them. I looked at pictures of it now, and i realize i got a drawing i made a couple of years ago of "Metatrons Cube" and the geometry(2d) resembles a little. Metatrons Cube supposed to be "a map of the universe", maybe string theorists should take a look at it=) But it got to have something to do with the platonic solids no?

However, the so-called Dendera lightbulb is probably a lotus.

Dendera light - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah the dendera light looks so strange...and i agree on the Lotus, it has psychoactive properties, and a snake in ancient egypt was associated with the all-seeing-eye, the whole thing looks very hippie!

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Reading about schist, I found out it is heat resistant.
https://sandatlas.org/schist/

Perhaps the Sabu Disc is a brazier meant to be elevated on a pedestal for lighting. The fold-like slaps keep the coal/wood contained while letting firelight filter downward.

My suspicion is that it's some sort of oil lamp.

Yeah it could very well be a brazier for lightning, that's not a bad guess. And unfortunately mysteries tend to have mundane explanation so this could absolutely be the answer =) It could be anything else of course.... I wonder what kind of sound wavelength it could make if it was spun in air at a certain rate... (I just googled and found out that the Kings Chamber act as a acoustic resonator,) lol.

The Roman dodecahedron is also very strange, and they have found so many of them. I looked at pictures of it now, and i realize i got a drawing i made a couple of years ago of "Metatrons Cube" and the geometry(2d) resembles a little. Metatrons Cube supposed to be "a map of the universe", maybe string theorists should take a look at it=) But it got to have something to do with the platonic solids no?

Yeah the dendera light looks so strange...and i agree on the Lotus, it has psychoactive properties, and a snake in ancient egypt was associated with the all-seeing-eye, the whole thing looks very hippie!

Imagine the theories future archaeologists might develop about fidget spinners.

 

[Osol Twist]

Imagine the theories future archaeologists might develop about fidget spinners.

 

[Will The Serious]

Imagine the theories future archaeologists might develop about fidget spinners.

Once our records are completely converted to digital media, and any hardcopy descriptions of daily life have disappeared because we no longer feel the need to preserve paper writing, then no written records will survive as archeological artifacts.

Everything we leave behind will become a mystery.

-Will

 

[The Salt Umpire]

Thing is tho - this civilization will leave behind markers like plutonium, forever chemicals, and the like which some future civilization will be at a loss to explain until they advance to a point where their science explains it.