An Epiphany About Vulcan Physiology

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  1. Brain Melter

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    Maybe the green blood wasn't such a good idea.
     
  2. Defiler-Of-Redshirts

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    Star Trek does drop little hints that Vulcan body temps are cooler than us humans.
     
  3. Defiler-Of-Redshirts

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    That's certainly another interesting biological theory about a mammalian species with copper-based blood. It's food for thought.
     
  4. Dry Bones 37

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    And miss out on this conversation?

    I think its great. One of my favorite aspects of aliens is discussing their physiology.
     
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  5. NCC-73515

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    Same here! I tried discussing Vulcan blood physiology with my high school bio and chem teachers XD
     
  6. Dry Bones 37

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    I did as well. My high school chem teacher was very helpful :)
     
  7. Prax

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    That might describe people that come from a northern climate, are naturally extremely pale, and never see the sun. Vulcans don't come from that kind of a climate.

    Anyways, Vulcans, including Spock in TOS, do have a green tint to their skin. It's subtle, and more apparent in certain episodes, but it's there in all the cases I can think of. Even Tuvok is given a green tint at times. It's more apparent when they are angry. Their faces flush green.
     
  8. Brain Melter

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    Well, since they are supposed to be unemotional, it doesn't happen very often.
     
  9. Defiler-Of-Redshirts

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    I remember that, but I've seen Vulcan anatomy diagrams on Strek Trek "Wiki" sites showing that the heart is where a human liver would be and the two organs are tightly packed together in that section of the torso.
     
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    Spock looked particularly greenish in "Where No Man Has Gone Before." He must have been flush with fever or something.

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  11. Brain Melter

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    You know there must be a reason why an organ is situated at a precise position in the human body and not somewhere else. If you change arbitrarily the position of these organs, you have a good chance of obtaining an individual that will have at some point a hard time to survive. Like if our heart were positioned anywhere outside of the rib cage then a single punch in the abdomen would kill you.
     
  12. Defiler-Of-Redshirts

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    But the Vulcan heart is still protected by the ribcage bones, just not the sternum itself.
     
  13. Brain Melter

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    Barely.
     
  14. Prax

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    Perhaps only Spock carried that deformity, being a mix-up n all.
     
  15. Brain Melter

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    Shouldn't Spock's blood be a mix of copper and Iron hemoglobin?
     
  16. MAGolding

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    Vulcans are used to external temperatures higher than normal on Earth:

    In "The Deadly Years":

    So Vulcans should have a higher internal body temperatures than Earth Humans, unless there is a process which can make their internal body temperatures much lower than external temperatures. Such a process would probably involve part or all of their body surface radiating a lot of heat and feeling very hot to the Human touch.

    I think that a mixture of copper and Iron hemoglobin would probably not be viable, but perhaps those more expert in biochemistry can think of a way to make it work.

    In "Journey to Babel":

    So Spock has both Human and Vulcan "blood elements". But I don't know if that means Spock has Human red blood cells as well as Vulcan green blood cells. Spock's blood looks green, so Spock probably has a low proportion of red colored cells in his blood, low enough not to affect the color much.
     
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  17. Brain Melter

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    Well, if you mix green and red you get brown.

    That could be confusing. If Spock is wounded in his derriere you wouldn't know if he's bleeding or having diarrhea.:rommie:
     
  18. Dry Bones 37

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    It is.
    Not really.
     
  19. Brain Melter

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    If you mix green and red you'll get brown. That's a fact.
     
  20. Dry Bones 37

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    I'm no medical professional but I have yet to mix up diarrhea and blood.

    I think I could tell the difference for many reasons.