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AMC's Comic Book Men - Anybody Watching?

ToddKent

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Just caught the first 1 1/2 episodes. Seems like enjoyable fluff so far. Yeah there's some geeky cliches but at the same time the guys seem nice enough that it might encourage some newbies to enter a comic book store for the first time.

Anyone else catch this? I guess obligatory Kevin Smith bashing can go here too but isn't that really played out at this point?
 
I've watched it, and even re-watched the first couple of episodes with a friend and given the episode(s)/show more thought. At first I didn't much like the "radio show" scenes but I've changed my opinion on them and feel they work better than the "camterviews" most shows of this type do with the "cast." I still don't much like the bearded guy/shop "hang-out" or how they treat the Asian guy (Ming?) but I guess that stuff all has its charms.

It's a pretty fun show though I'd like to see more stuff with goings on inside the store and dealing with customers and their items. (I suppose if the show gets picked up for more episodes and becomes more popular we'll see more of that.)

I hadn't realized the guy running the shop is Walt Flanagan who appears in Kevin Smith's movies (mostly in the View Askewniverse ones) most notably playing a handful of "customer characters" in "Clerks."

The episode featuring Jay was interesting though I think it would have been nice to see what Jason Mewes is "really like" instead of pretty much making him a man-child not too much unlike his movie namesake. (Though maybe that is really how Mewes is?) I also didn't too much like the Hockey stuff in last week's episode (again, I think it got too far away from the "core" of the show.)

But, overall, it's not too bad just hope to see more stuff about comics, the culture and more of the talk between the cast.

My friend and I did find it interesting on the price-points on stuff in the episode. In Pawn Stars people come in and get triple or four-digit offers on their items. Here? A guy comes in with an entire run of "Crisis" comics and get offered a couple dozen bucks. It's quite the contrast between the "worth" of the items.

I did read somewhere on how they "stage" these scenes, they put up a notice on if anyone had something to sell, got the offers, scheduled times to "film" the interaction and pretty much told the seller to come in and act however they want to sell the item. (Explaining the Chucky woman in the corset treating the doll like a real baby, the guy with a briefcase hand-cuffed to him for the movie swag, etc.)

Enjoyable enough show, though. I'll probably keep watching.
 
^ Same. Walt Flannigan is one of Kevin's best friends I believe and I think the inspiration behind the character Dante(could be misremembering that) and he drew Kevin Smith's Batman: Cacophony and Batman: The Widening Gyre (for those who don't know who he is :) . I still keep missing the show. Ming too has been mentioned in tons of Kevin Smith film audio commentary. Caught the third episode tonight, and the comic shop stuff is the most interesting aspect of the show, but I don't want the show to turn into a "Pawn Shop" type series, I don't really think that works for a comic shop...and as for the worth, comic book prices have dropped significantly in that last few years. So it's not surprising they offer what they do for various items.
 
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Being a big fan of the Askewniverse films, as less of Smith's post-Jay and Silent Bob work, I'm enjoying the fact we're seeing effectively a real-life Clerks in action. I'm actually surprised Smith hasn't done a Clerks-like film set in a comic book store.

The roundtable aspect of the show is what makes it different than "just another collectables show". Well that and the fact occasionally you'll see stuff you actually own. I have a set of Six Million Dollar Man action figures in my collection so it was cool to see one on the show. And the comic art that shows up - and that Batmobile - are cool.

It's not "must see TV" every week - and anyway it'll be repeated forever - but it's fun to watch.

Alex
 
My brother had the Secret Wars series. Worth that much? :wtf: That made me sick. I'll probably never watch the show again.
 
^My impression is that's exactly how Mewes actually is.

Yes. The character of Jay and his various catchphrases and mannerisms were based directly on Mewes. Plus, the Jay & Silent Bob Get Old podcast proves that he hasn't changed in the initervening years.

My brother had the Secret Wars series. Worth that much? :wtf: That made me sick. I'll probably never watch the show again.

I didn't see it, how much was it worth? And why did it make you sick/impact your decision to watch?
 
I didn't see it, how much was it worth? And why did it make you sick/impact your decision to watch?

They said it was worth hundreds, but the guy, after leaving and coming back, sold it to them for $210.

Brings up painful memories. My brother's comic book collection (and mine, too a lesser extent) was lost to his evil ex. It all probably wound up in a storage unit auction and/or sold on the cheap to some comic shop.

Last week it was Crisis on Infinite Earths, he had that, too. Changed the channel...I just didn't want to know.
 
Crisis on Infinite Earths wasn't worth that much. But I understand. I had a decent sized comic collection as a kid that was given to a charity shop.
 
Awhile back I found all the Crisis issues in a quarter bin at a flea market. I got them and put them on eBay and barely got around $15. For some reason they just don't get a high price. (Maybe because DC keeps "undoing" all their major events? I mean, Barry Allen and Supergirl are alive and well these days.)
 
Probably because so many people bought them when they came out, figuring they'd be worth millions in a few years. It's what happened with X-Men #1 and a bunch of the Image Comics stuff.
 
Crisis on Infinite Earths wasn't worth that much. But I understand. I had a decent sized comic collection as a kid that was given to a charity shop.

IIRC, it was suggested the COIE set would sell pretty high (I think a couple hundred dollars) but what was offered to the guy wanting to cash them in wasn't very high, it was pretty much the same problem that's ran into all of the time on "Pawn Stars" where the customer doesn't realize the store has to turn a profit and isn't going to pay full price for an item. If they paid for what the item is worth how do they re-sell it for a profit? They'd have to sell it for MORE than it is worth! I don't think there's been this much discussion yet on the show trying to explain to the customer how retail works, but there has been so far a couple instances of the customer thinking that because it's a high-value item they're going to get high-dollar for it.

It's even been said a few times on how much the worth of this stuff has gone down even a year ago that COEI set could've gotten a higher price. There's also been a couple of instances where it seems the customer has simply gotten their item "authenticated" or "appraised." Last week it was a guy with an actual prop lightsaber from ESB that he gotten for pretty much nothing and was told it was worth tens of 1000s of dollars. This past week a guy came in with a large collection of very old, very rare comics and a couple that introduced new characters (like Wonder Woman and Robin), the store didn't buy any of them as they said the comics were so valuable he'd be better of selling them at auction.

Which makes sense, if someone walks in with an Action Comics #1 they're not going to get $1m from some hole-in-the-wall comic book store it's not feasible for the store to buy it as it's not something they're ever going to sell and make a profit on (no matter how little they end up paying for it) something like that is better sold at auction.

Which, again, is what I find interesting about this show is the few times things have been bought it's only been for a few dozen dollars or maybe a couple hundred (as was the case for the large Thor poster.) It's sort of a nice contrast to Pawn Stars where people are coming in occasionally with $30,000 rare pieces of jewelry.

(Not to disparage Pawn Stars, it's still a show I like.)

But the banter between the group in the sound-booth is becoming a highlight for this show, Kevin Smith is just a lot of fun to watch and funny. It's a shame he's mostly backed out of making movies that's he's written and are fairly "low budget."

I'm still not a big fan of the bearded guy, he seems like sort of a jackass.
 
I like Pawn Stars too and always wish they'd show more fanboy-ish stuff (but I understand why they don't) so I like those segments of this show.

And, yeah, it seems like Beard Guy is trying to come off as some type of surly curmudgeon character but just doesn't have the energy to commit to it.
 
"Bearded Guy" is Bryan Johnson who directed the film Kevin mentioned in last night's episode "Vulgar". He's been a staple of Smith's friends as well for a long time and been mentioned in many Smith audio commentaries and what not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgar_(film)

@Trekker...Kevin hasn't backed out of doing anything. He has mentioned that he will be retiring after he finishes writing and directing his next film, "Hit Somebody" which will be a hockey movie.
 
My problem with the sales scenes is that they always seem inherently phony, because the producers of the show usually go out of their way to wring every last drop of dramatic tension and quirkiness out of what is a basic conversation: "I have this thing. Is it worth a lot? Would you buy it?"

But it's never that simple. It's staged like: "Oh wow! the Geeky guy brought a strange and wondrous thing! What's the strange and wondrous thing?!!!" (commercial break) "Oh! That's the strange and wondrous thing!" (Oooh! Aaah!) "The show's stars are really impressed!" (Interview, Show star: "It was really impressive.") Geeky Guy: "Wouldja buy it? huh? Wouldja? Wouldja?" Star: "Well, what are you asking for it?" Will they buy it??? WILL THEY BUY IT????!!!!! (commercial break)

Most often in these scenarios I find myself not giving a flaming shit what the answer is by the time they actually get around to airing it. And while similar scenes are features of a show I do like - American Pickers - there's compensation in the fact that the Pickers are likeable guys, while I find the Pawn Stars to be locked into various degrees of "asshole."

As for Comic Book Men, keep the radio show, keep the day to day goofiness, even keep the big bearded asshole, but I could live without knowing whether some gangly walk-in manages to sell them his entire collection of Sad Sack, USA comics.
 
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