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AMC and OLTL cancelled. A moment of silence for the soap opera genre

Re: AMC and OLTL cancelled. A moment of silence for the soap opera gen

Maybe the way to keep the stories of these shows going is to take a page from the Trek playbook. Maybe they could re-launch them in book (or e reader) format. There are tons of romance novels out there maybe an AMC or OLTL series could catch on.
 
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I don't watch AMC or OLTL, but I was a little saddened to learn of their cancellation. It wasn't entirely surprising though since two huge soaps on CBS not long ago went off the air too.

When the last of the soap operas go here in the US, it will be a sad end to a very interesting cultural phenomenon.
 
Re: AMC and OLTL cancelled. A moment of silence for the soap opera gen

Well it looks like Oprah gave the thumbs down to saving AMC & OLTL.
LINK

She does make a good point as to why even she cannot save these shows. Unfortunately the dawn of the new daytime talk shows seem to be all clones and even more predictable than a the lamest soap plot.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings#Criticism_of_ratings_systems

Is Hoover gonna "boycott" everything Oprah now? :lol:
 
Re: AMC and OLTL cancelled. A moment of silence for the soap opera gen

^ Oprah is a shrewd (and very successful) businesswoman, she knows a bad idea when she sees one.

If there was any money to be made, ABC wouldn't be canceling the shows.
 
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Re: AMC and OLTL cancelled. A moment of silence for the soap opera gen

I don't watch AMC or OLTL, but I was a little saddened to learn of their cancellation. It wasn't entirely surprising though since two huge soaps on CBS not long ago went off the air too.

When the last of the soap operas go here in the US, it will be a sad end to a very interesting cultural phenomenon.

I don't expect the remaining 4 (Days of Our Lives, The Young and the Restless, The Bold and the Beautiful and General Hospital) to last any more than 2 to 3 more years.
 
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I think we can probably officially stick a fork in the American daytime drama genre - it's done. Although General Hospital has been renewed, ABC has announced the twin cancellations of All My Children and One Life to Life.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsideth...els-one-life-to-live-and-all-my-children.html

The former debuted in January 1970, the day after Jon Pertwee's first appearance on Doctor Who; the latter debuted during the summer of 1968, a year before man walked on the moon, just to put it into some context.

There might be one or two more soaps besides GH on the air in the US, but it does seem the writing is on the wall.

I've never been a personal fan of the genre, but I certain respect it. First, there's the extreme longevity of the shows. Not even Star Trek or Doctor Who can claim the decades upon decades racked up by soap operas. The Guiding Light, which ended a year or so ago, debuted on radio two years before Hitler invaded Poland, for heaven's sake. And we're talking shows that run 5 days a week - sometimes for an hour, or a half hour, with scripts to be written and learned and performed - up till the 1970s these things were done live, too.

Actors have lived their entire professional lives playing characters on soaps - some actors have gone from being strapping 20-somethings to being elderly and passing away from natural causes during the course of their time on shows like this. You wanna talk long form entertainment, think about that.

And many others used soap operas as a training ground. Tons of Star Trek actors, for example, started out on soaps.

And occasionally the genre mixed things up a bit and we ended up with stuff like Dark Shadows.

But I can see why it died. Its core target demographic was originally housewives and the retired who were home all day and needed entertainment while they did the laundry or sat in the rocker and knitted. But now you have two-income families, retired people are out volunteering or travelling, and the leftovers are more interested in watching Dr. Phil or Ellen - or they're watching reruns of CSI on Spike or a DVD or playing Wii Fit.

Plus when you're talking hundreds of episodes every 12 months, you ain't gonna see DVD releases. Dark Shadows is an anomaly as they did release that series to DVD, never mind you needed to build an addition to your garage to store all of the DVDs; it was worse in the 80s when the show was released to VHS, two episodes at a time, I kid you not. :eek:

Similarly, there's no rerun market for soaps. I know there are niche cable networks that do air soap reruns. But, really, putting the anomaly of Dark Shadows aside (because it was syndicated), you never saw Another World or General Hospital or the Guiding Light syndicated like you did, say, Trek or Get Smart reruns.

So RIP the soap opera. It was a unique form of entertainment that I'd frankly rather see than another variation on Dr. Drew's Celeb Rehab...

Alex

Another thing to consider is that the two talk and information shows that will immediately replace them are likely to be much cheaper and easier for ABC to produce. From a financial standpoint, it was a no-brainer for the network, IMO.

I was about to say, Whoa! How do you cancel a whole network with such breakout hits?

Until I read the post.

I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner.

Looking solely at ratings and ignoring everything else, those two soaps drew significantly lower ratings than some afternoon talk shows which I'm guessing are much cheaper to produce (e.g., Ellen).

As I said before, the unreality of most of these shows compared to the average British soap opera (Coronation Street & Emmerdale, as well as East Enders), is why American soap operas are dying off, NOT because of the reasons mentioned above. If these soaps were as REALISTIC as the British ones, then they'd have viewers. But, they're not, so they end up getting canceled and that is that. Maybe it's time for the Yanks to learn from the Brits and make soaps like they do.
 
Re: AMC and OLTL cancelled. A moment of silence for the soap opera gen

Unless I'm reading the wikipedia entry for Coronation Street wrong, it's broadcast in the evenings. Are the others as well? In any case, my immediate reaction is that simplifying the entire issue to a matter of realism in the show as the reason the shows were canceled doesn't seem realistic. There are so many other factors, and the ratings were a lot better in the 1980s and there was some pretty silly unrealistic stuff going on then.
 
Re: AMC and OLTL cancelled. A moment of silence for the soap opera gen

Unless I'm reading the wikipedia entry for Coronation Street wrong, it's broadcast in the evenings.
some are daytime, some early evening, some primetime

Daytime
Doctors
Neighbuors
Home & Away

Early Evening
Hollyoaks

Primetime

EastEnders
Emmerdale
Corrie

Neighbours & Home & Away are imports from Australia.

As Dusty Ayres suggets the UK soaps are all a great deal more realistic than US soaps, the primetime ones obviously do the biggest numbers, with 10 million being the upper limit.

I like the Oprah video, there is no "Cult of Oprah" in the UK , but I respect her for speaking out about the soaps like she did, from the POV of a business woman, this is often missed in the "save my show" campagins.
 
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