Am i the only one who likes the end scene of Nemesis?

[Norrin Radd]

I'm not talking about the movie itself; I think it may be the worst Star Trek flick.

However, the last scene is touching and bittersweet...with the Data clone singing that song and Picard walking down the corridor with a smile on his face.

The problem is that the scene's effectiveness is undermined by the film's general ineptitude.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

It set the scene for a ST III style come back.

Which annoyed me, as Myers said on the STII commentary, when someones dead they should stay dead, this "back to life" crap ST does all the time gets a bit much.

The alternate ending with the new XO and the seatbelt would have been much better

 

[Krieg1981]

Perhaps yes! It could have been done much better that it came out. I was so disappointed with the final product.

 

[Trekker4747]

The alternate ending with the new XO and the seatbelt would have been much better

No. No it wouldn't have been.

Not at all.

Not in any way "better."

 

[Dane_Whitman]

I like the optimistic look on Picard's face when he walks through the corridor. The scene would have paid off better if those idiots had included the scene with Data and Picard in his quarters, which adds a lot more meaning to the final scene (and the whole film).

 

[Trekker4747]

I like the optimistic look on Picard's face when he walks through the corridor. The scene would have paid off better if those idiots had included the scene with Data and Picard in his quarters, which adds a lot more meaning to the final scene (and the whole film).

Nemesis has touches here and there of good scenes.

I like the "awaiting the dawn" scene as Picard and the crew ready for battle. Good intercuts of the ship's prep and music in the scene along with Picard's VO.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

I like the optimistic look on Picard's face when he walks through the corridor. The scene would have paid off better if those idiots had included the scene with Data and Picard in his quarters, which adds a lot more meaning to the final scene (and the whole film).

Yeh thats my exact problem with it, it's way too "dont we live in candy land where everything always works out and nothing bad happens and the dead will come back to life somehow"

The alternate ending with the new XO and the seatbelt would have been much better

No. No it wouldn't have been.

Not at all.

Not in any way "better."

It had some comedy, some noistalgia with Riker on the bridge for the last time, and a much better end line.

 

[Trekker4747]

It had some comedy, some noistalgia with Riker on the bridge for the last time, and a much better end line.

Trek doesn't do comedy well.

Especaily "breaking the fourth wall"/"self referential" comedy.

Picard remarking on "finally" getting seatbelts on the ship?

LAME.

LAME. LAME.

The lamest LAME that ever lamed.

Lamer than a quadruple-amputee with a full-frontal labotomy.

So lame it actualy reaches back in time and kicks you in the nuts on the moment you became a Trek fan.

So incredibly LAME that the Universe ITSELF created an immense power to reach into Baird's mind and make him realize what a bad scene it was.

In case I'm not clear.

The scene was LAME.

Bad

Terrible

Horrible

Shitty

Just thinking about it makes me dream of Picard yelling "Yippeee!!!" as he flew the Reman shuttle just so I can have something better to think about.

God.

It would of been HORRIBLE if that scene left in. I would gone home and burned all of my Trek stuff and became a fan of something less lame... Like, I dunno, Homeboys in Outerspace or something.

 

[cardinal biggles]

That scene could have been way lamer, and I can prove it with seven words:

"Hello, Captain! Meesa Ensign Jar Jar Binks!"​

 

[Saga]

i hated the seatbelt bit too, but having Riker give bad advice to the new XO was nice.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

Your right, Datas replacement singing like a retarded child and feeding treks stupid love affair with back from the dead stories was much better

 

[Trekker4747]

Your right, Datas replacement singing like a retarded child and feeding treks stupid love affair with back from the dead stories was much better

"Lesser of two evils" maybe.

 

[Kronos]

The alternate ending with the new XO and the seatbelt would have been much better

No. No it wouldn't have been.

Not at all.

Not in any way "better."

It would have been horrible, it also would have fit perfectly with the rest of the movie so why not go for it?

 

[cultcross]

i hated the seatbelt bit too, but having Riker give bad advice to the new XO was nice.

Indeed, that part raised a smile from me, and seemed very in character for Riker.
The seatbelt thing, though, was inexcusably awful. For better or worse, Trek has decided to take itself seriously, it's not Stargate or Firefly which are set up to laugh at themselves. Hence when they do attempt self-referential humour of this type it tends to fall very very flat, as it seems so out of place. I felt the same about all the 'nudge nudge wink wink' scenes on Enterprise where someone would mention something that we know becomes part of Starfleet like the Prime Directive or Red Alert and we'd be expected to smile knowingly.

 

[ClayinCA]

I always hated the last shot of Nemesis, even more than the end scene - with the starship Enterprise, the flagship of the series, boldly...sitting there in drydock, not going anywhere. Kind of like the franchise after this movie came out, sadly...

 

[Kolrad]

There is a brief scene in Nemesis that I think hits all the right notes and always takes me back to the best days of TNG. It's Picard's final captain's log:

Captain's personal log, supplemental. We're heading toward Federation space at maximum warp. The crew has responded with the dedication I've come to expect of them. And like a thousand other commanders on a thousand other battlefields, I wait for the dawn.

I'm not sure if I can explain what makes that scene so effective, but it always makes me smile. It's really too bad that neither ending comes close to matching it.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Probably because it's reminiscent of Picard's "inspection tour" and chat with Guinan from "Best of Both Worlds, Part I."

 

[Trekker4747]

Probably because it's reminiscent of Picard's "inspection tour" and chat with Guinan from "Best of Both Worlds, Part I."

Yeah. And his "inspection tour" in that scene is well done with some great music.

 

[cultcross]

I always hated the last shot of Nemesis, even more than the end scene - with the starship Enterprise, the flagship of the series, boldly...sitting there in drydock, not going anywhere. Kind of like the franchise after this movie came out, sadly...

Yes, that bugged me too I must say - hardly the majestic closing shot I'd hoped for. If the big E needs to be in drydock for story reasons, do the last shot as something else - sunrise over the Earth or something Star Trek-y like that.

 

[ClayinCA]

I always hated the last shot of Nemesis, even more than the end scene - with the starship Enterprise, the flagship of the series, boldly...sitting there in drydock, not going anywhere. Kind of like the franchise after this movie came out, sadly...

Yes, that bugged me too I must say - hardly the majestic closing shot I'd hoped for. If the big E needs to be in drydock for story reasons, do the last shot as something else - sunrise over the Earth or something Star Trek-y like that.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! For years I've been whining about that damn last shot, and haven't run across anyone else who felt the same way.