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Am I Not A Star Wars Completist Without The Clone Wars?

Clone Wars is fun but the stories can be kind of basic though some of the later ones get more involved. I really enjoy the series but I don't want people trying this out to be disappointed by their expectations. It's an animated spin-off to Star Wars with the good and the bad that implies.

Another thing I'd say is to give it a couple of episodes to warm up to the look of the stylized animation designs for the characters.
 
Here's an attempt at a timeline of events (Not official-or complete at all).:

Year One:

-AOTC

-Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns for PC

-Clone Wars Video game for Ps2

-Clone Wars (Gendy series) season one

-Clone Wars Adventures digests

-Early Star Wars Republic Comics with Anakin still Padawan

-Jedi Trial book (Anakin becomes a Knight)

-Clone Wars CGI season 1 and 2, possibly three (Anakin gains Padawan)

-Republic Commando books I and II

-Republic Commando game

Year Two

-Most of the middle SW Republic comics

-The Cestus Deception book

-Yoda Dark Rendevous book

Year Three

-Medstar novels

-Most of the later Republic comics

-Outer Rim Sieges (As told mainly in Clone Wars Gendy season 3)

-Obsession comics

-Labyrynth of Evil novel

-ROTS



For a more complete timeline with summaries, there's this wiki:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_Wars


It however is just as disorganized and confused about the timeline. What really screws things up is the CGI Clone Wars series, by having Anakin have longer hair/be promoted to a Knight early on, where as previous Clone Wars stories had him be a knight towards the *end* of the war.
 
Is there any official word on why the micro-series is in the Lucas Vault?

I assume they're trying to pretend it doesn't exist so as to avoid confusion with the new series.
 
I also agree that "The Clone Wars" is what the PT should have been like, in both pacing, acting, and tone, at least AOTC should have reflected what Filoni and his writers have brought to the series, just fantastic stuff and Anakin is actually likeable and heroic.

Okay okay okay!!! You people have convinced me. :D Clone Wars S1 Disk 1 is now at the top of my Netflix queue.
 
If you don't have everything, you're not a completist.

You're just another fan.

Sorry.
 
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I just can't get into Clone Wars stories because there's no real point to the Clone Wars-they were a sham orchestrated by Palpatine to gain power, so they didn't really matter.

You mean like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Seriously though, the fact that Palpatine orchestrated the war makes it even more important to watch, to see all the waste and destruction that the galaxy has to go through just for the whims of one man.


The tradition animation micro series is a completely seperate entity (well as seperate as anything in the SWU is) from the CGI.
Oops. Yes, traditional animation. I can't believe I missed that I referred to both as CGI, even after re-reading my post before submitting.

The micro-series are traditional animation, right? I might check both out eventually when they're released but for now, I'll stick with Season 1 of the CGI series since that's all that's available. I hope they kick S2 out there soon because S3 is starting and I don't wanna fill up my whole DVR before I catch up!


The first Clone Wars micro-series was done in two chunks, the first hours worth started right after AOTC, showed various adventures, and then ended on a cliffhanger. The second hour pickups the cliffhanger, then jumps ahead to shortly before ROTS (and its ending actually leads right into the beginning of ROTS). So if you want a true viewing time line, it would be AOTC, Vol 1 of the first series, then the all of the CGI series (still in production though), then Vol 2 of the first series, then ROTS.

There is some overlap in the two series, and it is odd to see Grievous go from awesome sauce in the first series to weak sauce in ROTS, but all of them are well worth watching (the CGI "movie", actually 3-4 eps strung together, is a bit of a slog to watch, but there are some nice action set pieces).

I do see the first series DVDs used fairly often and at decent prices, so keep your eyes open.
 
I think that the shorts did reveal that Greivous was damaged by Windu, hence his cough in the film.

The Magnaguards were also far more effective in the shorts as well, they barely did anything worthwhile in ROTS and were disposed of just as easy.

In fact, I think the only battle droids that really potrayed a sense of menace in the films were the Droidekas (Although there's a scene where Jar-Jar takes down one...)

The Super Battle Droids were effective in AOTC, but then we got the scene in ROTS where they were given the same intelligence and voice as the regular battle droids, and taken out easily by R2-D2....totally ruined them.


It should also be noted that the cell-animated series potray the Jedi as truely super-human, whereas the CGI toon has them more like they were in the films. This toons apparentally were retconned as 'exaggerated' accounts of the battles, from what I understand. Also while both toons use largely the same voice cast, Anakin is different-in the original toon the actor is trying to replicate Hayden Christensen's voice and delivery, while in the second toon we have Matt Lanter's Anakin which sounds more casual and different from Hayden.
 
The micro-series Anakin sounded absolutely nothing like H.C. :wtf: He had a much higher pitched voice with a vaguely British accent.
 
The micro series Anakin was still closely modeled character wise on the Padawan AOTC Anakin and as I've posted in previous threads Lucas has never "ignored" the micro series, if he had Anakin wouldn't have his scar and we wouldn't see Ventress at all, probably just General Grevious and Dooku. Filoni I think has stated that he likes to think this takes place as further side stories alongside the micro series. Lucas stated this early on as well.
 
October 3 is the release date for the second season of the CGI series. As for the micro-series, which looked like this, it originally aired between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, so it's actually been out for a while, it's just hard to find.

October 26th actually. Same day that Back To The Future and the Alien Quadrilogy hit Blu-ray. Also known as the day my wallet weeps.
 
I consider myself a Star Wars completist. I've seen Star Wars,The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
:bolian:

Other than the irony above, I don't see why anyone would need or want to self-identify as a Star Wars completist. Be completist at something chicks dig, like vinyl, or oral sex.
 
I consider myself a Star Wars completist. I've seen Star Wars,The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
:bolian:

Other than the irony above, I don't see why anyone would need or want to self-identify as a Star Wars completist. Be completist at something chicks dig, like vinyl, or oral sex.

An oral-sex completist? Is that even possible?

I mean, how many women are there in the world? And plus--once you reached the end, you'd find whole new generations of women maturing at the beginning, demanding to be added to your collection.

But, hey: dream the impossible dream, man. :techman: Follow that star, no matter how hopeless, no matter how far.
 
The micro-series Anakin sounded absolutely nothing like H.C. :wtf: He had a much higher pitched voice with a vaguely British accent.

That was probably an attempt to re-create the accent James Earl Jones created for Vader. It still bugs me that Anakin doesn't have the accent. Dunno what it is, Shakespeare by way of Savannah, but it was creative and cool, and gave Vader a big part of his identity.

I get that the damage to his lungs explains the deeper timbre of voice, but that doesn't change your accent! Both Anakin and his mom should have had that accent, so they would sound kind of unplacable, like you couldn't tell what mysterious planet they originally came from. That would really have added to his mystique.

Also while both toons use largely the same voice cast, Anakin is different-in the original toon the actor is trying to replicate Hayden Christensen's voice and delivery, while in the second toon we have Matt Lanter's Anakin which sounds more casual and different from Hayden.
Sounds like a good acting choice. There really isn't much about the movie Anakin that is worth preserving for the cartoons, other than that he should be tall, blond and good-looking, and be a bad-ass fighter. :D

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I just can't get into Clone Wars stories because there's no real point to the Clone Wars-they were a sham orchestrated by Palpatine to gain power, so they didn't really matter.
You mean like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Seriously though, the fact that Palpatine orchestrated the war makes it even more important to watch, to see all the waste and destruction that the galaxy has to go through just for the whims of one man.
Reality and fiction are two different things, and while plenty of great fiction is reality based, that's not Star Wars, which is best when it sticks to what it originally was, a total fantasy that draws from mythology and fairy tales.

I don't mind that Palps manipulated the Jedi into the war, but I would have been much happier if the Jedi had been far more suspicious overall, maybe just fighting because they had no real choice, while using diplomatic back channels to desperately end what they suspected was a stupid, contrived war. It's not good for the heroes of a story to be dragged along by events like that; they should be doing something to get out in front of the story and drag events in the direction they want. Even if they're not successful, they'll look better for a) figuring out what the audience already knows and b) trying.

For this to work, the Separatists should have been depicted as basically decent folks who were also being victimized by Palps, and the Jedi should not have been in charge of the war effort because then they'd have the power to stop the fighting. The Jedi should be a priestly caste who is popularly regarded with awe but not in charge of the military. There should be a non-Jedi command structure that the Jedi have to negotiate with to get anywhere, and that military could have had its own reasons to allow Palps to continue "duping" everyone.

Just in general, I would prefer the story to be arranged to make the Jedi look more moral and intelligent. Having the clones be produced by, and fighting for, the Separatists rather than the Jedi would have been another improvement.

But all this is being imposed on the cartoon series by the movies, so I won't blame the cartoons for making the best of what they've been handed.
 
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In the books and tv show the Jedi are constantly trying to seek peaceful solutions to end the war and are suspicious of the war's origins and how certain people are profiting off of it.
 
If I remember correctly, there's a whole plotline in the Karen Traviss Republic Commando novels where a woman researches the origins of the clone army and begins to realize something isn't quite right.

In some of the comics, there are also several non droid/jedi/clones participants in the wars. Most notably the Jaabim storyline, which actually had an OT era sequel (In the Shadows of their father) where the human participants get all fussy at Luke because of his father's actions during that particular battle.


I wonder if they'll ever use Durge in the CG series. Durge of course was in the first Star Wars clone wars toon as well as some comics, and we learn of his eventual fate in the Obsession miniseries, but that doesn't take place until around the time of ROTS so there's plenty of room for Durge to show up.

For those who don't know, Durge is a bounty hunter who is apparentally millenia old and has a major problem with Mandalorians.
 
I've only watched the first feature-length Clone Wars story. Although the first twenty minutes or so were more enjoyable than the entire prequel trilogy, it quickly descended into... blah. I didn't bother watching any of the following stories.
 
The CW film suffered from an overdose of the inane Anakin-Ahsoka bickering/bantering. Fortunately, that tapers off the further into the series you go.
 
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