Am I Alone In This?

[Bry_Sinclair]

I got into Star Trek as a child in the late-80s and early-90s watching repeats on BBC2 and absolutely loved it--much to the chagrin of my family. I loved it so much that when I learnt of TNG the very concept was an affront to me; how could they have Star Trek with Kirk and co? But I eventually started watching TNG and equally fell in love with it, even to the point where I was picking Picard over Kirk.

Since those days, I haven't gone back and revisited TOS, as it holds a very special place in my heart (as seen through the eyes of a child). The characters, stories, action, romance, friendship, laughter and overall campy goodness, are an amalgamation of my appreciation and love for TOS, something that I'm afraid of damaging going back and watching them now after 20+ years (with higher expectations of special effects, acting ability, and overall tone, not to mention a more pickier eye).

I'm asking if anyone else is in the same boat, or if you were then bit the bullet and went back and watched them?

Apparently, my lack of up-to-date familiarity with TOS could be the reason I don't "get" the NuTrek films

 

[BillJ]

Apparently, my lack of up-to-date familiarity with TOS could be the reason I don't "get" the NuTrek films

Could just be you like the spinoffs more than TOS? Nothing wrong with that. I'm in a boat traveling the opposite direction. With each passing day, I drift further away from the spinoffs and don't revisit them nearly as much as TOS. I used to inhale anything "Star Trek", including new shows, comics and books. Now? I hardly buy anything beyond an occasional TOS novel.

But I do think it's funny when someone complains about the action in the new films but then is all for a movie about "Captain Kira whuppin' ass".

I started watching TOS in 1975 when I was four and haven't stopped. For me, the Abrams films are the closest anyone has gotten to the feel of TOS since TOS itself. When I come out of the Abrams films, I feel like a kid again. I can't think of receiving anything greater than that from an entertainment franchise.

As in all things, everyone's mileage may vary.

 

[Ssosmcin]

I started watching Trek when I was about 4 in 1972 and it’s been ongoing ever since. The one series I never, ever, get tired of. Because it has always been with me, I don’t see “campy goodness.” Dated styles? Sure, but nah, not camp.

I like the Bad Robot Treks, but I don’t connect with them the same way. They are, to me, another spin off like Enterprise, which I also enjoyed – on its own terms. It’s not “my” Star Trek, but I’m fine with them.

 

[ReedEnterprise]

I would go back.

I am like you to a degree. My dad was a trekkie and I could not understand the fascination of how he would watch them over and over in syndication. I got my first taste in the 70s and hated it. I remember wondering why The Riddler from Batman was half black and half white? Who was this man with the pointed ears? And who was this cute guy with the funny accent? Aside from that, I HATED it.
The summer of 86, I watched and finally got it. I became a trekkie ever since.

I watched some TOS via dvds, Netflix, Amazon recently. And now on MeTv. I don't regret it. Some I totally remember, some of my least favorites not so much. Maybe start with what you remembered you really enjoyed? But I would go back.

You will refall in love, remember the magic.

 

[Melakon]

Been watching TOS since 1966 when I was 15. It took a few weeks since the cave sets looked really fake to me, and I did not care for Spock's look as an alien. I probably would have liked him better if he'd been some complex makeup job like The Outer Limits did with David McCallum, or even the partial appliances like Skip in my avatar.

TOS has always been my Trek linchpin. I'm watching episodes several times a week now, since I finally have the complete series again.

 

[LordMudd]

We had 2 UHF channels back then and one had just sold Trek to the other, but was doing a marathon, 6 episodes a night every night until all of them aired. I caught the last 3 nights, then spent months looking for it until it finally came on the other channel.

Never been much of a story person, prefer the FX, so it is all good with me.

CCC.

 

[MacLeod]

I got into Star Trek as a child in the late-80s and early-90s watching repeats on BBC2 and absolutely loved it--much to the chagrin of my family. I loved it so much that when I learnt of TNG the very concept was an affront to me; how could they have Star Trek with Kirk and co? But I eventually started watching TNG and equally fell in love with it, even to the point where I was picking Picard over Kirk.

Since those days, I haven't gone back and revisited TOS, as it holds a very special place in my heart (as seen through the eyes of a child). The characters, stories, action, romance, friendship, laughter and overall campy goodness, are an amalgamation of my appreciation and love for TOS, something that I'm afraid of damaging going back and watching them now after 20+ years (with higher expectations of special effects, acting ability, and overall tone, not to mention a more pickier eye).

I'm asking if anyone else is in the same boat, or if you were then bit the bullet and went back and watched them?

Apparently, my lack of up-to-date familiarity with TOS could be the reason I don't "get" the NuTrek films

Like you i grew up watching repeats of TOS on BBC2 in the mid 80's and into the early 90's DEF II as the slot used to be called.

And sure I've caught the odd episode or several dozen in re-runs and sure they are some I don't enjoy but there are some I still enjoy. I don't watch a show from 50 years expecting today's levels of effects etc.. All I ask is that it entertains me for an hour or two.

 

[Botany Bay]

I grew up with TOS reruns in the 80's, watching them from probably about the age of 3. In the mid 80's my parents taped about 30-40 episodes and these were my babysitter for years . I was captivated by it, and still am

I have never fallen out of love with TOS - since the DVD's became available a decade ago, I watch at least one a week, and my kids are little Trekkers, so luckily I get to watch it all the time now.

I "fell out of love" with TNG - I thought it was amazing when it first aired, but when I went back to it for the DVD release I found it very dull and slow in parts, with way too many cheapo "filler" shows. The HBO era was in full swing, and the Berman "formula" seemed like something from another era. I gave it another go when my kids started watching TNG when the Blu Rays came out, and they love it just as much as TOS.

Recently I picked up the whole of DS9 on DVD, and everyone in the family is a fan. Again, there is a tendency to pad out seasons with cheap episodes that are often quite dull, and the first season was a bit of a mess, but after that the unfolding character arcs and big picture story are interesting to watch. After, what, 20 years, you forget all the twists and turns. If you haven't watched DS9 for a while, I recommend another look.

Go for it Bry, watch TOS again, you won't be disappointed

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Apparently, my lack of up-to-date familiarity with TOS could be the reason I don't "get" the NuTrek films

No doubt a thinly veiled sideswipe at me from a thread in a separate forum. Very uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for. For the record, I asked about your conclusions reference faithfulness between TOS and NuTrek. I made no suggestion, either directly or implied, about you not "getting it".

Honestly, I couldn't care less what you think about JJTrek - but I don't think it's unfair of me to suggest you're one its biggest detractors on this board. By your own admission, taking any opportunity to have a chip - often in threads that have nothing to do with it. I don't have a problem with that, but you can't expect others with differing opinions not to respond on occasion.

Can't we keep this civil? I even began my post in the other thread stating my genuine respect.

 

[bbjeg]

^Or it could just be Bry_Sinclair's opinion.

I grew up watching TNG as a kid and loved it. After DS9 and Voyager rapped up I went back and watched TOS and loved it as much as the rest though personally, I enjoy that classic cinema style.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

^Or it could just be Bry_Sinclair's opinion.

I don't get what point you're trying to make?

Yes, it's his opinion - I just stated I don't have a problem with it. The BBS is an opinion based forum, and I responded with mine.

 

[Melakon]

Apparently, my lack of up-to-date familiarity with TOS could be the reason I don't "get" the NuTrek films

No doubt a thinly veiled sideswipe at me from a thread in a separate forum. Very uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for.

Etc., etc.

I think it's sort of uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for trying to start a fight over something you think is aimed at you, because of something said in another thread.

This seems out of character for you, Lokai.

 

[BillJ]

I think it's sort of uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for trying to start a fight over something you think is aimed at you, because of something said in another thread.

This seems out of character for you, Lokai.

I think that sometimes people can only take so many veiled swipes at their intelligence because of a film(s) they happen to like. It has gotten to the point of comical the number of swipes people take at the Abrams films in threads that have nothing to do with them.

It would be like me taking a swipe at Star Trek: Insurrection in a thread about "The Cage". I don't like the former, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the latter.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Apparently, my lack of up-to-date familiarity with TOS could be the reason I don't "get" the NuTrek films

No doubt a thinly veiled sideswipe at me from a thread in a separate forum. Very uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for.

Etc., etc.

I think it's sort of uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for trying to start a fight over something you think is aimed at you, because of something said in another thread.

This seems out of character for you, Lokai.

No, not trying to start a fight at all. Trying to defuse one in actuality. I think it's fairly obvious the comment was aimed at me, and I have the right to correct a misrepresentation of my meaning and intent if I see it - especially as it's been dragged into another thread.

 

[Gov Kodos]

No doubt a thinly veiled sideswipe at me from a thread in a separate forum. Very uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for.

Etc., etc.

I think it's sort of uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for trying to start a fight over something you think is aimed at you, because of something said in another thread.

This seems out of character for you, Lokai.

No, not trying to start a fight at all. Trying to defuse one in actuality. I think it's fairly obvious the comment was aimed at me, and I have the right to correct a misrepresentation of my meaning and intent if I see it - especially as it's been dragged into another thread.

Your diffusing nothing, quite the opposite, really. Maybe this whole thing started elsewhere

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=9878224&postcount=29

but this isn't helping.

I got into Star Trek as a child in the late-80s and early-90s watching repeats on BBC2 and absolutely loved it--much to the chagrin of my family. I loved it so much that when I learnt of TNG the very concept was an affront to me; how could they have Star Trek with Kirk and co? But I eventually started watching TNG and equally fell in love with it, even to the point where I was picking Picard over Kirk.

Grew up with Trek starting as a kid in the 60s. TNG era Trek has never held a candle to it. Being far more interested in Kirk, Spock, and McCoy than the aliens or the Trek vision thing, the other series never held my interest.

I'm asking if anyone else is in the same boat, or if you were then bit the bullet and went back and watched them?

Apparently, my lack of up-to-date familiarity with TOS could be the reason I don't "get" the NuTrek films

I haven't re-watched in some years, but the new films are great. Kirk, Spock, McCoy are back, though it does need more McCoy for me, but there you go.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

I think it's sort of uncool, unnecessary, and totally uncalled for trying to start a fight over something you think is aimed at you, because of something said in another thread.

This seems out of character for you, Lokai.

No, not trying to start a fight at all. Trying to defuse one in actuality. I think it's fairly obvious the comment was aimed at me, and I have the right to correct a misrepresentation of my meaning and intent if I see it - especially as it's been dragged into another thread.

Your diffusing nothing, quite the opposite, really.

That's not true. I was genuinely trying correct a misrepresentation of what I'd said - the OP pulled it in here.

I'm done with BBS, I'm having a pretty poor time IRL and I just don't fancy feeling worse from this type of thing. I honestly wish you all the best, signing off.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Love TOS. Watched it in the 60s and 70s. It's the only Trek I own the complete series of. I catch TNG on BBCA every once in a while, but TOS is my Trek.

 

[Melakon]

I'm sorry to see this, but I'll just say... Bele.

 

[Kemaiku]

TOS is the only series that I rewatch with any regularity, the rest hold little to no interest which the exception of Enterprise, which I prefer to sit down and watch a season through over a few days. But not all that often.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

TOS is far and away my favorite Trek series. TNG comes in second, with TAS behind that. The others, not so much, but they all have decent episodes.

nuTrek is new. It's an adaptation of TOS, with only a few nods here and there to the post-TOS spin-offs. In being an adaptation of TOS, nuTrek has a lot in common with TOS. In being an adaptation of TOS, it's not TOS.