Alternate Season 6-2 for Doctor Who

[Joe Washington]

I didn't like the lack of direction or emotional fallout from Let's Kill Hitler or A Good Man Goes to War in the second half of Season 6. If I had my way, this would be how the second half of Season 6 would have gone through:

LET’S KILL HITLER: Though River was able to fight back her programming to save the Doctor's life, she can still feel it getting stronger making it harder for her to control it. She strongly advices the Doctor, Rory, and Amy to leave her before she tries to kill the Doctor again and she won’t stop until the Doctor is dead or she is. Rory and Amy promises that they’ll find a way to prevent the Doctor’s future death. If they stop it, then River’s programming loses its purpose and she can return to them. By the end of the episode, River begins traveling through the Universe to hopefully outrun her Silence masters and find a way to rid herself of her programming completely.

NIGHT TERRORS: The Doctor, Rory, and Amy’s search for away to stop the Doctor’s death is interrupted when they receive a mysterious message which takes them back to Earth. Amy and Rory aren’t in the mood for another adventure, wanting to get back to their search immediately. But the Doctor wants to use travels like this to distract him from the enormity of their task and give themselves a break now and then. Amy and Rory are willing to indulge him. The situation with the scared kid makes Amy and Rory think about their own child and their feelings about missing out on being parents to her when she was a baby and her never having a normal childhood.

THE GIRL WHO WAITED: The Doctor stops by somewhere that they thought would be the perfect place for him, Amy, and Rory to find information that could help them with stopping the Doctor’s future death but instead they wind up in a hospital center which leads to a complicated situation for Amy. At some point, Rory vents his frustration with the Doctor for not only not checking the places he travels to but thhe role of blame he plays in the screwed up situation of his daughter . Future Amy talks about her feelings about the loss of her daughter and her dark acceptance of the futility of trying to stop of the Doctor’s future death. Rory and Present Amy refuse to believe that though they understand how Future Amy may feel that.

THE GOD COMPLEX; Amy and Rory try to shake off what happened with Future Amy last episode but the Doctor can see those events and the lack of progress in their search to stop what is coming for him are weighing heavily on the couple. By the end of the episode, the Doctor tricks Amy and Rory into returning to Earth and leaves them with a somber message in which he decides he won’t be postponing the inevitable for himself and that he is doing this so Amy and Rory can get their daughter back. Amy and Rory are saddened by the Doctor's decision.

The events of the last two episodes would happen as they did originally.

 

[OmahaStar]

That's nice. Don't care. We already got a nifty season, thanks.

 

[Joe Washington]

Oh, OmahaStar, can always count you to be a Class-A party pooper.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

I agree. Even without quite so many changes, I think they could have made at least some effort to address Amy & Rory's grief over their daughter. "Let's Kill Hitler" could have used an extra 5 minutes at the end. "Night Terrors" definately needed a whistful parental moment from them. "The Girl Who Waited" definately needed a longer ending to deal with the fallout from the events in that episode. (A reference to Rory spending 2000 years guarding Amy in the Pandorica wouldn't have been out of place either.)

 

[The Wormhole]

Try to remember, Night Terrors was supposed to be from the first half of the season that got switched with Curse of the Black Spot at the last moment, so it would have been damn near impossible to have included anything related to the second half's arc. As it was, the scene at the end with the Doctor looking at his death certificate was likely added at the last minute to presumably replace him performing a pregnancy scan on Amy.

And really, I could care less about any of these other proposed changes. Aside from referring to events from the previous episode(s) it still sounds like we'd end up with the same basic episodes we got.

 

[23skidoo]

I had no problem with the order of the episodes. I think it was a very good call to move Black Spot from the second half to the first half and move Night Terrors back, since the second half was, on the whole, a lot darker in tone than the first half. Black Spot would have spoiled the mood somewhat.

I think The Doctor's Wife was also supposed to go in the second half too, IIRC.

The only sad part is by moving those two episodes to the first half of the season, that means the Amy we saw all swash-buckly and the Amy whose memories of delight at her wedding helped save the day was in fact the Ganger. (That said I was very happy that they indicated in TWORS that she had memories of being on the pirate ship as it confirmed that it was still our Amy all along, just in an avatar.)

Alex

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I was very happy that they indicated in TWORS that she had memories of being on the pirate ship as it confirmed that it was still our Amy all along, just in an avatar.)

Um, that was pretty much made apparent in the 2 parter where we find out Amy is a ganger who they showed how the technology works when they don't come to life and all the eyepatch lady appearances in the first half episodes.

 

[The Wormhole]

I had no problem with the order of the episodes. I think it was a very good call to move Black Spot from the second half to the first half and move Night Terrors back, since the second half was, on the whole, a lot darker in tone than the first half. Black Spot would have spoiled the mood somewhat.

The explanation given for switching Black Spot and Night Terrors was that it was felt the first half was too dark, so they switched the grim Night Terrors with light-hearted action adventure Black Spot.

Well, that's the official story. Some people speculate that BBC simply wanted to cash in on the POTC hype by airing a pirate episode in the spring.

I think The Doctor's Wife was also supposed to go in the second half too, IIRC.

The Doctor's Wife was actually originally written as a season 5 episode, but there was no budget for it, so it got held off until season 6. It was originally intended to be the third episode of the season but eventually became fourth. There were never any plans for it to be in the second half.

 

[JRoss]

Oh, OmahaStar, can always count you to be a Class-A party pooper.

OmahaStar, in your honor I will name my first daughter Constance Joykill.

 

[Joe Washington]

I second that.

 

[Starkers]

Is this the right time for me to mention my alternative Caves of Androzani where the 5th Doctor actually gets enough bats milk for both of them and hence doesn't regenerate into Colin?

 

[OmahaStar]

Is this the right time for me to mention my alternative Caves of Androzani where the 5th Doctor actually gets enough bats milk for both of them and hence doesn't regenerate into Colin?

Sure. But then I'll have to bring up the corresponding theory that says Commander Maxil showed up and poisoned the bats who gave the milk, and the Doctor regenerated into Colin anyway.

 

[Starkers]

^You realise you just killed Peri right?

 

[zarkon]

I'm not seeing a downside there.

 

[OmahaStar]

^You realise you just killed Peri right?

Had to make room for Evelyn and Donna somehow.

I'm not seeing a downside there.

Agreed! lol

Alright, Peri did eventually grow up, and is much better in the audios. And she was never as bad as Useless or Adric.

There, I said something positive about Peri.

 

[Sindatur]

Heh, I just watched the end of Davision's run, and it's funny how Five didn't really welcome Peri aboard, she had to beg, and apparently in Twin Dilemma, he was still holding a grudge about being sidled with her (Still, she's better than Mel).

I actually like Twin Dilemma, sure it's got he annoying twins, but, if you accept that's just their character, the story is actually pretty well done, IMHO. Also, were the Twins' actors really Twins? Or just brothers that look remarkably alike? One of them seemed taller, shoulders seemed like they stood a whole inch taller, and their hair fell different

 

[OmahaStar]

(Still, she's better than Mel).

So true.

I actually like Twin Dilemma, sure it's got he annoying twins, but, if you accept that's just their character, the story is actually pretty well done, IMHO. Also, were the Twins' actors really Twins? Or just brothers that look remarkably alike? One of them seemed taller, shoulders seemed like they stood a whole inch taller, and their hair fell different

I went to school with a set of twins, Mark and Marty, who were supposedly identical twins, yet one had a growth spurt our freshman year and was 2-3 inches taller than his brother ... Marty, the taller of the two, also played football and had much more muscle mass than Mark.

Mark never did gain that extra 2-3 inches, though he did eventually fill out like his brother.

It's possible these actor-brothers were the same way. One hit his growth spurt and the other hadn't yet.

I did a google search, and didn't turn up much on the brothers. What little I could find says that Gavin is really named Paul, but couldn't use his real name (Paul Conrad) because there was already an actor by that name. The Doctor Who story was the only one they've appeared in. It was apparently the beginning and ending of their acting career. Their father was in several stories as background characters.

Also, at least according to one review site I found, the producers didn't want to cast the pair as the twins, but whoever their manager was, he was very forceful, and they couldn't find a better pair of twins to play the parts.

 

[Whofan]

^Yeah, the father was Gharman in Genesis of the Daleks and had a small role in The Chase...


Twin Dillema also had an almost unrecognizable Kevin Mcnally, who these days is well known for his role as Gibbs in Pirates of the Carribean.