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Unless there's another clone body out there somewhere...
Don't give Disney any ideas.
Per the old EU, he's died before and he'll die again.Unless there's another clone body out there somewhere...
Palpatine is like a horror movie villain.
In theory you could just World Between Worlds him back. But I doubt they really want to go there...
I wouldn't.
Rhetorically speaking; would it be correct for the child of someone who has an identical twin to consider said twin to also be their parent, and any cousins to be half-siblings? Obviously not, because aside from that being objectively weird; people are individuals, not exclusively defined by their genetics, and that extends to familial relationships.
As much as I'd rather they'd have stuck with "Rey From Nowhere", the reality is that Rey's father is Dathan, not Sheev. Sidious is not her father anymore than Shaeeah Lawquane is Omega's step-daughter, because that's not how that works.
Honestly, it's a huge stretch to call Rey his granddaughter at all since 1) Dathan wasn't an exact clone, but a hybrid, and 2) the relationship between Sheev and Dathan was obviously not of the parent/offspring persuasion.
Bo Katan had exactly the right term when she named Jango Boba's "doner", because that seems to be the extent of Sidious's relation to Rey.
As much as I'd rather they'd have stuck with "Rey From Nowhere", the reality is that Rey's father is Dathan, not Sheev. Sidious is not her father anymore than Shaeeah Lawquane is Omega's step-daughter, because that's not how that works.
Honestly, it's a huge stretch to call Rey his granddaughter at all since 1) Dathan wasn't an exact clone, but a hybrid, and 2) the relationship between Sheev and Dathan was obviously not of the parent/offspring persuasion.
Bo Katan had exactly the right term when she named Jango Boba's "doner", because that seems to be the extent of Sidious's relation to Rey.
They most certainly do not. That's just Boba, and it's not solely because of genetics, it's because he literally raised him as his son. Seriously, name one canonical close besides Boba that's ever referred to Jango as a father.
I wonder how many of the Clones that were produced ever even knew that a Mandalorian bounty hunter named Jango Fett provided their genetic template?
It's been mentioned a few times in both TCW & Bat Batch; and while it doesn't seem to be common knowledge among the ranks, it's not exactly a secret, and those that do know don't seem to care overmuch.
Also; calling him "Mandalorian" is a bit of a stretch when drawing genetic relations. I mean there's Mandalorians and there's Mandalorians.
Unless there's another clone body out there somewhere...
You guys bring up good points, but I was talking about from a purely scientific, genetic level with no emotion or psychology. @Reverend does bring up an interesting point with the twins though.
He was a foundling.
Mandalorian in the loosest sense but still, Mandalorian armor and chain code.
Hence my use of the word "stretch" not "incorrect".
Works for me. 
He wasn't a pure clone of Palpatine, he was a strand-cast.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Strand-Cast
...which if I understand the process correctly means "not quite a clone" by virtue of slightly altered DNA.
It seems like the goal of that process would be to avoid replicative fading and other such issues that come about from pure cloning. So in other words, more like true offspring, but more selectively created.
Which also describes literally all of the Jango clones--save for Boba and Omega--what with them being altered for obedience and accelerated growth. Whatever it is about Omega that made her different doesn't seem to have been intentional, making her more of a mutant (for lack of a more flattering term.) So yeah, the clone troopers were also all strand-cast clones.
In the case of Rey's dad; he's supposedly the product of a failed experiment. An "abomination" that was intended to be the perfect vessel for a Sidious reborn, but just turned out . . . normal. One gets the impression they were throwing everything at the wall just to see what sticks by the time they made him; a clear sign of the desperate state Project Necromancer was in by that point.
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Oh OK, I never heard that before. So that does change things quite a bit for the whole daughter or granddaughter question.
The only mention by name of Boba Fett in ESB and it's in a scene that was deleted from the film.