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Furthermore, it's not even necessary. Just as The Clone Wars (among others) has greatly recontextualized and expanded on the ideas of the prequel trilogy, the same can happen for the sequel trilogy, and it has already started.
That's a far better solution than "decanonizing" (ugh) and redoing it with potential deep fakes (again, ugh).
That's a far better solution than "decanonizing" (ugh) and redoing it with potential deep fakes (again, ugh).
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It's going to be a hoot in a few more years when all the little kids, for whom the sequel trilogy was their intro to SW, are all grown up and are waxing poetic about the films... just like all the posters on this board now that love to jump to the defense of the PT.
Well, that's just it. You toss out the Sequel Trilogy, you have to toss out everything else Disney has done, including the acclaimed stuff like The Mandalorian and even Andor. When they de-canonized the EU, they wiped the whole slate clean. They didn't cherry-pick their way through by keeping the good and tossing the bad.
Filoni (remember him? We were talking about him) opened the trailer for the second half of Season 2 of Rebels with ships from (I'm told) Knights of the Old Republic. (The hammer head things that showed up in Rogue One?)
The voice over said "There's always a bit of truth in legends." (Legends is what Disney called the old continuity.)
Cheeky devil.
They've included other things from KOTOR. For example, the Selkath species turned up in The Acolyte ( as well as new-canon books and comics, after already having appeared in TCW ), while Andor made several references to the Rakata.
I don't see why they can't cherry-pick on what they want to keep or not. IMO I think it's just a matter of when more than if, when this happens. Sooner or later someone will likely come along with a great idea that more or less starts with the notion of 'This what REALLY happened after the Classic films" and they will embrace it. It isn't even a case that they will be looking for excuse to erase it. Just that someone has a great idea and they think it will be successful.
Not under Disney ownership at least. Anyway, all the potential for post-ROTJ storytelling is arguably still there, in the Mando era ( relying on certain technology of course ). It's just that we know the endpoint so they can't kill off people who were still alive at the start of the ST. But other than that the sky ( no pun intended ) is the proverbial limit.
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I genuinely can't say what I think about this whole 'decanonize the sequel trilogy' talk because it would get me in trouble with the moderators, but it rhymes with "Time Brick Love Cupid" and was just said by a sitting US politician with whom I'd normally have nothing in common.
Instead of "De Cannonize" just make it more interesting, give it some depth that was missing from the movies, like Clone wars did. Bad Batch started it.
For me, to do that,.. Introduce Snoke in the "current" Mando timeline, and have him be a character, give him some background. Have him be the "Crazy Dark Jedi" that Thrawn finds in Heir to the Empire.
For me, to do that,.. Introduce Snoke in the "current" Mando timeline, and have him be a character, give him some background. Have him be the "Crazy Dark Jedi" that Thrawn finds in Heir to the Empire.
This would work. I also am okay of shifting it to another timeline so it isn't technically erased for people who like it. I also kind of like the idea of erasing it but keeping it for parts. Which means you can bring back characters,ships, etc if you want. Just put them in a new setting.
JJ Abrams is a special kind of stupid.
www.mlive.com
Iconic ‘Star Wars’ actor says director shot down reunion of beloved characters
The actor said his pitch to director JJ Abrams was met with resistance because "It's not Luke's story anymore."
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Pretty sure I've read this story before but it doesn't make it any less stupid.
And now it'll never happen.
And now it'll never happen.
While I can object that JJ had no plans to bring the Gang back together (he should have), this article is silly.JJ Abrams is a special kind of stupid.
Iconic ‘Star Wars’ actor says director shot down reunion of beloved characters
The actor said his pitch to director JJ Abrams was met with resistance because "It's not Luke's story anymore."
Because of the way the Mystery Box of this movie was set up I don't even think they did press tours with the Big Three, did they? Yes, I think this was a mistake.
BUT.
"It's not Luke's story anymore." I've seen responses like this answer was the dumbest thing that JJ has ever said or even thought. But it's NOT Luke's story anymore. Why is that crazy?
There is more to the interview where Hamill tries to say that Star Wars wasn't Obi-Wan's story either but he had a crucial role to play. OK. And in the next movie Luke had a crucial role to play. What does that have to do with if the Gang meets up again?
"It’ll only take 30 seconds." I've had a few days to think about this. Imagine that TFA comes out and Luke, Leia, and Han (and Chewie, Artoo, and Threepio, and even Lando) are together for THIRTY SECONDS. Out of the whole movie.
Who would that make happy?
But let's say this was a genius idea and 30 seconds would have salved the nerdy wounds of a million fans.
Where? When? Before Han dies? Then they're not looking for Luke anymore, are they? Where does that go in Rey's story for this film? Where, in the story that Hamill signed up for, does this scene go?
Is it a flashback? Is that going to be OK? They never meet again because Luke is hiding and Han is dead (just as now). But we see them in a flashback. Is a flashback going to be good enough?
He makes it sound like they were hanging around on the set, or even at the table read, and Hamill (and ONLY Hamill?) made a very reasonable request that JJ cruelly and insanely shot down.
That's nuts.
The problem seemingly has its roots in making Luke the MacGuffin, something which may have originated in the Michael Arndt treatment.
When you throw in Han dying ( and Luke not showing up as a third act surprise but only in the final moments of the film ) then you've killed off the potential of the gang getting back together.
I'm not here to defend JJ by any means, but maybe by the time anyone raised any objections to the situation things were already pretty far along and it was kind of too late to reverse course?
When the actors first got their hands on the script, did anyone object? Why did we not hear anything about Hamill's complaint until 2026?
I don't recall significant public concern on this issue at the time TFA was released. On the contrary, people seemed caught up in the exuberance of getting a prequel palate cleanser and appeared generally pleased with the film.
When you throw in Han dying ( and Luke not showing up as a third act surprise but only in the final moments of the film ) then you've killed off the potential of the gang getting back together.
I'm not here to defend JJ by any means, but maybe by the time anyone raised any objections to the situation things were already pretty far along and it was kind of too late to reverse course?
When the actors first got their hands on the script, did anyone object? Why did we not hear anything about Hamill's complaint until 2026?
I don't recall significant public concern on this issue at the time TFA was released. On the contrary, people seemed caught up in the exuberance of getting a prequel palate cleanser and appeared generally pleased with the film.
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