Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by Reverend, Jul 27, 2022.

  1. Reverend

    Reverend Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Thought it was past time for a catch-all Star Wars thread for a the little news items, announcements and stories that don't really rate a thread all of their own. Books, comics, games rumours, Like the MCU speculation thread, I figure this will have an ongoing utility, and will probably deteriorate into a squabble about the nature of canon every third page or so. I've marked it as 'spoilers' rather than 'news' just to make sure nobody wanders in here unawares.

    So to kick it off: it looks like the KotOR remake is floundering. Reportedly, a vertical slice (basically a fancy demo) was shown off to the higher-ups at the company as well as LF, and shortly afterwards bother the Art Director AND the Design Director were fired. Titles in the gaming industry are wildly inconsistent from one company to the next, but that pretty much sounds like the two most senior positions responsible for the overall direction of the game.

    While this sucks, I'm honestly not surprised. Building an RPG is a herculean task at the best of times, and this company is basically only known for porting old games to modern systems. They've never tackled a project of this scale before and I suspect the executives vastly underestimated just how much work, investment of resources, and TIME it would take. I'd like to think it'll be put into more capable hands, but I suspect it's going to be a hack job and rushed out the door. One hopes LF has enough control over the licence to prevent a disastrously inferior product making it to market, but Star Wars gaming has been fairly rough going for quite a while now, so I'm not holding my breath.

    ETA: Here's a brief summery of everything that's upcoming, when it's due out and what the latest news is: -

    RETURNING PROJECTS

    'The Bad Batch' Season 2
    Status: Originally set for fall 2022, delayed to a January 4, 2023 release.
    [Spoiler Thread]

    'The Mandalorian' Season 3
    Officially set for Feb 2023 1st of March 2023.
    [Spoiler Thread]

    'Jedi Survivor'
    (Video Game)
    Announced Jan 2022, for a 2023 release.

    'Visions' Volume 2
    Spring 2023. Not just Japanese studios this time around; the shorts are being produced by animation studios from all over the world including India, South Africa, Chile, the US (California specifically), Spain, France, Ireland, the UK, AND Japan!
    'The Book of Boba Fett' Season 2
    Status: Uncertain, but rumours that it's still on the books.​

    'Andor' Season 2
    Filming began Nov 2022 and will continue through to August 2023. Likely won't be released until 2024 at the earliest. [Collider Article]

    NEW PROJECTS (Named)

    'Young Jedi Adventures' (Animated series)
    Spring 2023. Set during the High Republic Era and mostly aimed at the primary school crowd. Unclear if it's intended to be an ongoing show, a limited series, or just another series of shorts like previous animated projects aimed at that demo.​

    'Ahsoka' (Live action)
    Announced Dec 2020. Production started May 2022. Some footage was show behind closed doors and SW celebration & again at D23. Currently set for a 2023 release.
    Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka (duh!)
    Liu Bordizzo as Sabine Wren
    Eman Esfandi
    as Ezra Bridger [Hollywood Reporter article]
    C1-10P 'Chopper' as himself
    Mary Elizabeth Winstead as (role unconfirmed, but rumoured to be Hera)
    Both Hera and Huyang (or a droid of the same design) were both in behind closed doors footage at celebration, but no casting for either of them is confirmed.

    Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker (rumoured) [Hollywood Reporter article]

    'Skeleton Crew' (Live action series)
    Announced in May 2022 under the codename 'Grammar Rodeo'. Starring Jude Law; EP & created by Jon Watts. Production began August/Sept 2022. Set for 2023 release.​

    'The Acolyte' (Live action series)
    Release unknown, but is in production as of Nov 2022 & several cast members have been announced.
    [Spoiler Thread]

    'Lando' (Series)
    Announced in Dec 2020, nothing further since.​

    'Rogue Squadron' (Movie)
    Announced in Dec 2020 to be directed by Parry Jenkins. In Development, though seemingly on the back burner. [Vanity Fair article] [Patty Jenkins Tweet - Dec 14, 2022]
    'Rangers of the New Republic' (Live action series)
    Nothing official since it's announcement in Dec 2020. Possibly cancelled and didn't even get past the conceptual stage, yet still officially listed as "coming soon"; [Variety article] [Report on Empire Magazine article]

    NEW PROJECTS (Unnamed/possibly don't actually exist)

    'Untitled Movie' by Taika Waititi
    Announced Dec 2020. Seemingly still in Development. Rumours that it may enter production and Pinewood in late spring/summer 2023. Nothing official.​

    'Untitled Movie' by Damon Lindelof & Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy
    In Development​

    'Untitled Movie' by Kevin Feige
    Little to nothing substantive at this point.​

    'Untitled Movie' by J.D. Dillard & Matt Owens
    Status: Uncertain​
     
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  2. Reverend

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    The 'Light & Magic' documentary series (Directed by Lawrence Kasdan no less!) just dropped on Disney +, and if you have ANY interest in how the VFX of Star Wars came to be, or indeed filmaking in general then I highly recommend checking it out.
    I'm only two and a bit episodes in and it's easily the most in depth and well put together look at that aspect of those movies I've ever seen. While a lot of it is talking heads, it's an engaging watch since it focuses as much on the people that made up the nascent ILM as much as the technology.

    I swear they must have pulled some stuff out of the LF archives or some of the artists have uncovered forgotten boxes of material for this too since I've probably seen every Star Wars BtS documentary ever, and there's footage and concept images here I don't think I've ever seen anywhere else.

    While it doesn't dwell too much on the personal dramas (because those are always a thing, everywhere, all the time) it doesn't gloss over it either, especially with regards to the split with Dykstra, which is both kinda heart-breaking and kinda inevitable.
    Just started episode 3 and it's just getting started with Empire, and one presumes episodes 4-6 will cover Jedi, ET, Raiders and the rest of the early 80's explosion of ILM's workload. No idea where it leaves off, but I suspect given that Cameron has been popping up as a talking head that it'll at least get up to the dawn of the digital age with Abyss, T2, & Jurassic Park.
    Given the pace, I'd be surprised if this is all they're doing since there's literal decades of material to cover. The prequels alone could take up a whole damn season (not that it will.) So I hope this is an ongoing thing and not just a one-off!

     
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    Bit of an update on the KotOR remake, and I'm not sure that it's good or bad news yet. It seems that the early demo went so badly it's been taken away from Asyr by the parent company and moved to Saber Interactive (I really hope it's not just because of the marketing synergy of their name!)
    Embracer Group seems to control a fair number of moderate to major VG developers (including the guys that made the Metro games IIRC) and yet Saber seems to be just yet another that mostly specialises in ports, not developing their own games, much less complex RPGs.

    It's tempting to say Star Wars video games have been "cursed", but really it all seems to be the result of mismanagement and executive level stupidity, and this proves that it's not just EA.
     
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  5. Morpheus 02

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    So any new news in this area?

    Maybe we can have a list at the top of upcoming and rumored projects? Maybe that can stimulate discussion?

    I am very interested in finding out what is next and when it comes.
     
  6. The Wormhole

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    The next confirmed Star Wars production to be airing is season 2 of The Bad Batch in January. Otherwise, we don't know much. Season 3 of The Mandalorian was originally reported to be premiering in February, though the fact the trailer only says "2023" is making some believe the February premiere is no longer set in stone. Especially since the reason Bad Batch was postponed from its orignal September release was because they didn't want it overlapping with Andor, making it unlikely they'll want Mandalorian to overlap with Bad Batch.
     
  7. The Nth Doctor

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    I'm hoping they're taking a page from Star Trek by having a show on most of the time, with a few weeks at most in between finals and premieres. Which would mean The Bad Batch begins in January and ends in April, The Mandalorian begins in May and ends in June, and then hopefully Ahsoka will premiere in July.
     
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    They'll probably need more live action shows then. They can't really get away with using animation as filler.
     
  9. fireproof78

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    Well, Clone Wars did that for a while.
     
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    Random thought. The Empire took Mandalore, and mined Beskar. What did they use it on? What was all those Beskar ingots supposed to be forged into for the Empire?
     
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    I noticed that they seem to be staggering their big live action SFF series in general, they seem to be trying to keep from having the Star Wars, Marvel, and now Willow from overlapping. We did get a couple weeks of overlap with She-Hulk and Andor, but other than they seem to keeping them away from each other.
     
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    IIRC, there was some concern that the early episodes of Ms. Marvel got lower views because they were streamed the same day as Obi-Wan. Which seems a gross misunderstanding of how streaming works to me, but whatever. Afterwards we did end up with Andor getting postponed, and She-Hulk was moved to a different day of the week so that there would be minimal overlap between the two shows, and when they did overlap they were on different days anyway.
     
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  13. Reverend

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    OK, I've added a preliminary list to the OP. Will update and expand a bit more later when I have another spare moment.
     
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    I'm fascinated how the Coming Soon list still includes The Rangers of the New Republic. No Skeleton Crew, Acolyte or next season of Mando. I'm still surprised every time I see Skeleton Crew in a list, let alone for a 2023 release, despite it being the most attractive concept of the announced series so far. (Perhaps after the Acolyte, as I'm liking the High Republic Republic era so far. Ironically, at least two of the books there feature something that does sound like the idea for Skeleton Crew, despite there being no connection. :lol: )
     
  15. Set Harth

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    This is gonna sound like blasphemy but it feels like there's too much stuff on the way.
     
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    Nope. No requirement to watch it all.
     
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  17. Reverend

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    Some of these are aimed at specific demographics, so it's not all meant to be watched by *everyone.* In the venn diagram of viewership, there's probably not a lot of overlap between 'Young Jedi Adventures', 'The Acolyte' and 'Visions'.
    If Andor has proven anything, it's that just like the MCU; Star Wars can handle more than just one genre and tone (though IMO TCW already proved that, but some people aren't paying attention.)

    Plus while it may seem like a lot, most of it won't be out for years (if at all.) The earliest a movie can arrive at this point is probably 2025 (and that assuming the rumours of scheduled set construction on Taika's project slated for next year are true.)

    Indeed, aside from Andor's concluding season, the only ongoing shows are Mando and Bad Batch. Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew & Acolyte are all going to be one-off limited series' like 'Obi-Wan Kenobi', and a second season of Boba Fett while still possible, certainly isn't in production and probably won't be before Q3 next year, meaning any theoretical release is at least 18 mouths out. Given that Acolyte literally just started shooting a few weeks back, that's probably not going to arrive until late next year at the earliest. Andor's second season hasn't even started filming yet, so that's not likely to show up until 2024 either.

    I mean for real, compared to what's been announced for the MCU's upcoming slate, this is hardly anything at all!
     
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    Thank you soooooo much! This is hugely helpful! Definitely now a watched thread for me!

    Looking at that list...I can understand why you would say it. I am fine with the list (especially since it runs the gamut of Definitely to speculative).

    We will see how it plays out. I think how you feel could also depend on if you subscribe to Disney + or not (I kinda feel like you do about NuNuTrek)
     
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