All Female Crew ideas? I need opinions. Half are obvious. Several are tough like who's the Pilot?

[CaptainKate]

Yar did seem very qualified and capable as security, but I think that she was a little over-sexualized. What I might really mean is that she was very, very likeable. But she was a little too soft spoken for me. It was still the 80s when she was on the show, so perhaps there was an older fashioned "emotionally weaker woman" thing?

An excellent example was her crying on the bridge. Picard consoled her and it was very, very sweet moment.

 

[Mattadd]

We'll take what we can get. The all ladies crew is still at a considerable disadvantage versus an all male crew.

I consider Data genderless unless someone wants a very philosophical discussion. He, Picard and Riker are juggernauts. What a three headed monster. Then, the Doctor puts them over the top versus the ladies.

Those are my thoughts so far, but you guys are giving me hope as this crew takes shape

I would agree a female crew would be at a disadvantage, but they could definitely still be awesome. I push for Ro as first officer because she was mentored directly by Picard. Picard seemed to have as close a relationship to her as he did to Riker, and she was an outstanding protegé. I'd be extremely comfortable with her calling the shots, she's assertive, confident, and learned from the best.

 

[Jayson1]

Opps I replied to your first post before reading your idea about Kira as xo. As usual, I don't know enough about Kira to contrast her to Seven. I love the idea of Seven in Astrometrics, but let's face it, she fits everywhere lol.

Teach me more about Kira. If Janeway, took one between the eyes in a real bloodbath, I'd feel very secure (as a crewmember) with Seven's nanosecond decision making. I really do understand her shortcomings though

To me Kira is a perfect first officer. Since you would be getting her post season 7 it means she has worked with Starfleet long enough to know how to work in that enviroment. What you don't get from many of the other choices though is because of her background as a terrorist not to mention she isn't Starfleet is she can do some of missions that might not be allowed by Starfleet.

As for Dax should can fit any many places and she also wouldn't be bad at first officer because she did command the Defiant for a short while during the war when Sisko was stationed at a Starbase. I think pilot would be best place though or operations officer. Never sure what a Operations officer does but it sort of strikes me as a jack of all trades jobs and with her 7 years of life experience she is good at things like science,piloting,ship operations and not bad as a engineer as well but not the best in that regard I don't think. one advantage she has as a pilot is a former host was a pilot and saw was Jadzia the host.

Jason

 

[Mattadd]

To me Kira is a perfect first officer. Since you would be getting her post season 7 it means she has worked with Starfleet long enough to know how to work in that enviroment. What you don't get from many of the other choices though is because of her background as a terrorist not to mention she isn't Starfleet is she can do some of missions that might not be allowed by Starfleet.

As for Dax should can fit any many places and she also wouldn't be bad at first officer because she did command the Defiant for a short while during the war when Sisko was stationed at a Starbase. I think pilot would be best place though or operations officer. Never sure what a Operations officer does but it sort of strikes me as a jack of all trades jobs and with her 7 years of life experience she is good at things like science,piloting,ship operations and not bad as a engineer as well but not the best in that regard I don't think. one advantage she has as a pilot is a former host was a pilot and saw was Jadzia the host.

Jason

Quite honestly though, having Jadzia Dax at ops is almost a criminal underuse of her tremendous abilities. I would argue Dax should actually be captain.

 

[Jayson1]

Quite honestly though, having Jadzia Dax at ops is almost a criminal underuse of her tremendous abilities. I would argue Dax should actually be captain.

Well you could create a marine unit attached to the ship that has it's own authority like those guys on "Enterprise" and put KIra in charge of that and make Dax, second in command. If you need soliders for the marines you could put Yar in that unit,Ro Lauren and Torres as the tech person of the unit.

Jason

 

[Mattadd]

Well you could create a marine unit attached to the ship that has it's own authority like those guys on "Enterprise" and put KIra in charge of that and make Dax, second in command. If you need soliders for the marines you could put Yar in that unit,Ro Lauren and Torres as the tech person of the unit.

Jason

Really? Hiding Dax away as second in command of a MACO team is an even worse underuse of her talents. Besides the MACOs were on board for a very specific mission, they were never meant to be part of the regular crew so I wouldn't include such a team on this hypothetical ship.

 

[Jayson1]

Really? Hiding Dax away as second in command of a MACO team is an even worse underuse of her talents. Besides the MACOs were on board for a very specific mission, they were never meant to be part of the regular crew so I wouldn't include such a team on this hypothetical ship.

No I said Dax could be second in command of the ship. As for MACOs being for specific missions we are talking a post war Federation. I wouldn't be shocked to see some changes in standard policy when it comes to ships and operations.

Jason

 

[Mattadd]

Oh ok that makes more sense, yea maybe I could see that.

 

[Lynx]

An interesting perspective indeed!

Well, let's give it a try:

Captain: Kathryn Janeway

XO: Kira Nerys

Tactical on the bridge: Seven

OPS: Jadzia Dax

Security: Tasha Yar

Pilot: Ro Laren

Doctor: Beverly Crusher

Engineer: B'Elanna Torres

Science: Kes

Communications: Ezri Dax ( I asked Q if he could separate Jadzia and Ezri. He did!)

Counselor: Deanna Troi

 

[CaptainKate]

I would agree a female crew would be at a disadvantage, but they could definitely still be awesome. I push for Ro as first officer because she was mentored directly by Picard. Picard seemed to have as close a relationship to her as he did to Riker, and she was an outstanding protegé. I'd be extremely comfortable with her calling the shots, she's assertive, confident, and learned from the best.

Dang! Thanks, Matt. You made a very strong case and given me something to think out. See, I'd love to see Seven blow the doors off another department, so......but do you think Ro has a big enough advantage at interpersonal skills? Diplomatic ability? Do you happen to remember TNG "Disaster". It was the where Picard was stuck in the elevator with the kids? Ro was on the bridge with Troi who was supposedly in command. Ro was very cold about saving people's lives. Just sayin. I might agree with at some point though. Thoughts?

 

[CaptainKate]

To me Kira is a perfect first officer. Since you would be getting her post season 7 it means she has worked with Starfleet long enough to know how to work in that enviroment. What you don't get from many of the other choices though is because of her background as a terrorist not to mention she isn't Starfleet is she can do some of missions that might not be allowed by Starfleet.

As for Dax should can fit any many places and she also wouldn't be bad at first officer because she did command the Defiant for a short while during the war when Sisko was stationed at a Starbase. I think pilot would be best place though or operations officer. Never sure what a Operations officer does but it sort of strikes me as a jack of all trades jobs and with her 7 years of life experience she is good at things like science,piloting,ship operations and not bad as a engineer as well but not the best in that regard I don't think. one advantage she has as a pilot is a former host was a pilot and saw was Jadzia the host.

Jason

Thanks! That gives me a lot to think about. But as always, I'm ignorant to Ds9. (Though, finally, I just started to binge watch it). I'm ignorant to Dax's abilities.

Again, that very young Bajoran, Sito Jaxa, whom I mentioned, did have very little experience, but if you recall, she was on the Alpha Squadron under Tom Paris' command in "The First Duty". In her only other episode, she died a hero for the cause of peace between the Cardasians and whomever. "Lower Decks" was a teary episode. I'm gonna re-watch it soon.

So for now, I'm sold on my underdog, Sito Jaxa. She also may have had a very sharp learning curve since she on Alpha Squadron.

 

[CaptainKate]

Quite honestly though, having Jadzia Dax at ops is almost a criminal underuse of her tremendous abilities. I would argue Dax should actually be captain.

Jeez lol. Such strong statements. Dax just as a character, must really, really be awesome. I look forward to binge watching Ds9.

But what's killing me so far, is that I think that the actress who plays her isn't very good at all. As an actress, she may have improved as the series went on. Perhaps I'm just spoiled by Voyager's stud group of actors and actresses.

 

[CaptainKate]

Except Odo isn't female. Odo may identify as male when in solid form but he's not really male either. The state he's most comfortable in is a genderless goop.

Agreed and point taken! Since the men get Data, the ladies get Odo lol. Philosophically speaking, I consider Data gender less also

 

[CaptainKate]

An interesting perspective indeed!

Well, let's give it a try:

Captain: Kathryn Janeway

XO: Kira Nerys

Tactical on the bridge: Seven

OPS: Jadzia Dax

Security: Tasha Yar

Pilot: Ro Laren

Doctor: Beverly Crusher

Engineer: B'Elanna Torres

Science: Kes

Communications: Ezri Dax ( I asked Q if he could separate Jadzia and Ezri. He did!)

Counselor: Deanna Troi

Crap! Thnx! I didn't even consider Ro's piloting skills! But, do you have any references? I can't count the TNG episode where she defected back to the Maquis. But I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't the best. If she is, then my Sito Jaxa would be an excellent backup when Ro goes on away missions.

Yay! The ladies can finally "hang" with Paris whose obviously on the All Men's-Team.

 

[CaptainKate]

Notice Tom Paris in the second photo. It was heartbreaking seeing her struggle, her will to fight and even stand up to Picard. Then she gives her life in the name of peace.

 

[Lynx]

Crap! Thnx! I didn't even consider Ro's piloting skills! But, do you have any references? I can't count the TNG episode where she defected back to the Maquis. But I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't the best. If she is, then my Sito Jaxa would be an excellent backup when Ro goes on away missions.

Yay! The ladies can finally "hang" with Paris whose obviously on the All Men's-Team.

I can't remember if she did anything extraordinary as a pilot, however there were some episodes when she was sitting at the conn. I have to re-watch those episodes again before I can come up with somethig definite.

But since she was the pilot on the Enterprise, I guess that she must be a good pilot.

As for Sito Daxa, she's an excellent character who would be perfect as a back-up to Ro Laren.

As for Tom Paris/Nick Locarno, I have toyed with some ideas for that as well.

 

[Lynx]

An excellent example was her crying on the bridge. Picard consoled her and it was very, very sweet moment.

If I had been the producer, I would have included Tasha singing the old Whitesnake classic "Crying In The Rain" but instead singing "Crying On The Bridge"!

 

[Mattadd]

Dang! Thanks, Matt. You made a very strong case and given me something to think out. See, I'd love to see Seven blow the doors off another department, so......but do you think Ro has a big enough advantage at interpersonal skills? Diplomatic ability? Do you happen to remember TNG "Disaster". It was the where Picard was stuck in the elevator with the kids? Ro was on the bridge with Troi who was supposedly in command. Ro was very cold about saving people's lives. Just sayin. I might agree with at some point though. Thoughts?

Ro grew a lot by her last appearance in Pre-emptive Strike. I definitely think she has the interpersonal skills. That being said I'm probably even more excited about Captain Dax, so I would put Janeway as the 1st officer, Ro would be demoted down to pilot then. Could be a 2nd officer/pilot like Data was.

 

[CaptainKate]

The photo is of my last "honorary" nominee. This young lady, while shaking in her shoes, still managed to stand up to Picard (though he was sitting having just broken his leg lol)

So on the subject of female 1st Officers, do any of you guys happen to remember the TNG episode "Disaster"?

In the Navy, I developed a very big appreciation for a good chain of command. While everyone else was blown away by Q in the very first episode of TNG, I was taken deeply by the first time Picard had ever met Riker in person. Picard grilled him, tested him really....about a duty of the 1st Officer that many people forget.

In "Disaster", Picard would had literally plummeted to his death, alone in a broken turbo lift, if this child had not stood up to him.

Picard, for the sake of morale and motivation, "kiddingly" removed his hard earned buttons from his collar and put them on each of three kids who were also trapped in the lift. He then told them that they had instantly become his officers and that the oldest, a twelve year old girl named Marissa, was now his Number One.

Even after Picard "ordered" them to leave him behind, she had the courage to say, "We all go or we all stay".

My point is the both Riker and Marissa had the health and safety of "their" captain as their number one priority.

Just something to think about.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

CO: Kira Nerys
XO: Number One (the original One)
Science: Jadzia Dax
Engineer: B'Elanna Torres
Medical: Beverly Crusher
Ops: Uhura
Conn: Stadi
Security: Natasha Yar
Tactical: Shelby
Counsellor: Kes