All Access

[dahj]

that means I'm on track to make a million dollars.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Oh, come on. They are succeeding, whether you like it or not. At least be a grown up about it.

It's impossible to tell either way based on the single piece of information you cited.

 

[BillJ]

It's impossible to tell either way based on the single piece of information you cited.

If you actually read it (from a link you provided), it really isn't. It shows the goals, it shows they have met or beat those goals, and setting new goals.

CBS All Access and Showtime OTT, are greatly exceeding our expectations. Our goal was to have eight million subscribers combined by 2020, and we are now on track to hit that number in 2019. For that reason, and based on our trajectory of growth in these services, we now predict that CBS All Access and Showtime OTT will have 16 million domestic subscribers by 2022.

Essentially, it isn't saying what you want it to say, or what internet pundits told you it would say. Which is why it is dangerous to rely on echo-chambers.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

If you actually read it (from a link you provided), it really isn't. It shows the goals, it shows they have met or beat those goals, and setting new goals.



Essentially, it isn't saying what you want it to say, or what internet pundits told you it would say. Which is why it is dangerous to rely on echo-chambers.

It isn't really saying anything at all. You've cherry-picked a deliberately vague statement to hold up as proof that their service is successful without any context behind the numbers.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Adult children set up an automatic payment to CBS so that their septuagenarian paternals can watch NCIS always, and forgot about it.

I gather All Access looks like "Cable" when its co-operating with a smart enough television, so the greatest generation can mistake a website for 1980s technology, and wield the CBS All-Access library effortlessly?

 

[BillJ]

It isn't really saying anything at all.

It isn't saying what you want it to say (from a link you provided). There's a world of difference. But, by all means, run off to Midnight's Edge and let them continue to feed you bullshit while you dream of the destruction of a TV program you don't like.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Adult children set up an automatic payment to CBS so that their septuagenarian paternals can watch NCIS always, and forgot about it.
I gather All Access looks like "Cable" when its co-operating with a smart enough television, so the greatest generation can mistake a website for 1980s technology, and wield the CBS All-Access library effortlessly?

Not exactly. But you have to take into account the fact that any numbers CBS throws out there will invariably include all of the free subscriptions that the network has handed out to try to bribe people back, and the one month people who will immediately cancel after they binge whatever it is they want to see.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

It's funny how fans didn't learn in 2005 that having a TV show fail doesn't mean the studio will just jump straight into making another Trek show. The very reason we're getting a Picard show is because DISCOVERY was a success.

TNG's success meant DS9. DS9's success meant VOYAGER. VOYAGER's success meant ENTERPRISE. ENTERPRISE's failure meant twelve years without Trek TV. nuTrek's success meant DISCOVERY. DISCOVERY's success meant Picard's spin-off.

See a pattern there? Keep Trek successful, and you may get a show you like!

 

[cultcross]

It isn't really saying anything at all. You've cherry-picked a deliberately vague statement to hold up as proof that their service is successful without any context behind the numbers.

And yet Midnight Edge's made up video is the real truth?

 

[PicardSpeedo]

And yet Midnight Edge's made up video is the real truth?

There's at least a modicum of credibility given that they quote actual numbers. I'm not disputing that they are opinionated at times.

 

[BillJ]

There's at least a modicum of credibility given that they quote actual numbers. I'm not disputing that they are opinionated at times.

Whose numbers are they quoting? The numbers I posted are from a CBS link you gave.

 

[cultcross]

There's at least a modicum of credibility given that they quote actual numbers. I'm not disputing that they are opinionated at times.

I can make up numbers - it's the source that matters.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Whose numbers are they quoting? The numbers I posted are from a CBS link you gave.

I'm aware of where the numbers you posted came from. I'm really not sure why you think I could forget that.

Not to sound like a broken record, but the ones you chose to post have zero context apart from marketing spin, and therefore can't be used to make an argument for or against the success of All Access.

As for the source of the Midnight's Edge data? Why don't you ask them?

 

[BillJ]

Not to sound like a broken record, but the ones you chose to post have zero context apart from marketing spin, and therefore can't be used to make an argument for or against the success of All Access.

They do have context, you simply refuse to see it. I mean, damn, I'm not a huge fan of the show, but I'm not going to argue with reality. And, the reality is that CBS has asked for concepts for five new shows (already green-lighting one) from the people who make Discovery. That doesn't speak to them thinking either the show or the platform are failing.

If you can't wrap your brain around reality, I don't know what to tell you?

 

[PicardSpeedo]

If you can't wrap your brain around reality, I don't know what to tell you?

I was waiting for the childish ad hominems to start. Looks like we've arrived. Have fun in your echo chamber. I'm out.

 

[Dukhat]

I was waiting for the childish ad hominems to start. Looks like we've arrived. Have fun in your echo chamber. I'm out.

Somehow I doubt you’re “out.”

 

[BillJ]

I guess their actual SEC filing doesn't mean anything either...

http://investors.cbscorporation.com/node/27156/html

For the three and six months ended June 30, 2018, affiliate and subscription fees increased 17% and 16%, respectively, reflecting 25% higher station affiliation fees and retransmission revenues in each period as well as higher revenues of 70% and 75%, respectively, from digital initiatives, including the Company’s owned streaming subscription services, CBS All Access and the Showtime digital streaming subscription offering, and virtual MVPDs.

 

[Mudd]

Based on the reporting about CBS in the last few days, All Access probably has about 2.5 million subscribers right now.

Not a failure. Not an earthshaking success. At that level the corporation could turn on a dime.

 

[Lord Garth]

I was waiting for the childish ad hominems to start. Looks like we've arrived. Have fun in your echo chamber. I'm out.

BillJ is the echo chamber? What the Hell universe did I step into?

 

[Jedi_Master]

It's funny how fans didn't learn in 2005 that having a TV show fail doesn't mean the studio will just jump straight into making another Trek show. The very reason we're getting a Picard show is because DISCOVERY was a success.

TNG's success meant DS9. DS9's success meant VOYAGER. VOYAGER's success meant ENTERPRISE. ENTERPRISE's failure meant twelve years without Trek TV. nuTrek's success meant DISCOVERY. DISCOVERY's success meant Picard's spin-off.

See a pattern there? Keep Trek successful, and you may get a show you like!

WRONG! IF I HATE AND BOYCOTT THEN THE THEY WILL FINALLY CAPITULATE AND MAKE AXANAR!!!!!