Here's an idea - make the adult Newt the protagonist (played by, say, Rooney Mara?).
Alien5: It's a Bug Hunt (pre-release thread)
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And then they'll go out for a nice dinner and settle down to watching some movies before going to sleep.
That movie (resurection) was set a long time after the others. Even Alien 3 could "after" this next new one if they want.
I was thinking more along the lines of having a announcement every minute saying:
"Warning, you now have two minutes to catch the early bird special."
Bringing back Hicks, however they choose to explain it, is the best retcon idea for this franchise in some time.
I've wondered what has kept an Alien 5 from taking place what with Prometheus, Predators the Prometheus sequel, talk of Predator 4 just what the hold up on an Alien 5 was.
Glad it seems it's finally happening. I'm fine with keeping the storylines of A3 and A4 intact, just explain away Hicks death as a lie, a cover up for military reasons etc.
I'll also take this moment to say I want a really kick ass AvP3 to happen. The first was a decent film, the second AvP was not but I still have high hopes for a badass AvP film so make a third please, just make it badass and bring back Sanaa Lathan as well since I'm being demanding.
I've wondered what has kept an Alien 5 from taking place what with Prometheus, Predators the Prometheus sequel, talk of Predator 4 just what the hold up on an Alien 5 was.
Glad it seems it's finally happening. I'm fine with keeping the storylines of A3 and A4 intact, just explain away Hicks death as a lie, a cover up for military reasons etc.
I'll also take this moment to say I want a really kick ass AvP3 to happen. The first was a decent film, the second AvP was not but I still have high hopes for a badass AvP film so make a third please, just make it badass and bring back Sanaa Lathan as well since I'm being demanding.
You did not.
The only thing the Variety piece said was that this project is completely separate from Prometheus 2 (although they're both being produced by Ridley Scott), and that it is set "years" afterward, to show that it does not interfere with the Prometheus film timeline.
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/n...-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/
They may very well try and do some tie-in (though I doubt it), but nothing in the article implies that it's a direct sequel to Prometheus 2 story-wise, other than it's a film set in the same universe that takes place later chronologically.
Yeah, and? I linked the article and commented on that specific point.
In what way does that imply that it's a "sequel" to Prometheus 2 unless you use sequel in the loosest way possible? It just says that Alien 5 takes places "years" after Prometheus 2 to further reinforce that the two projects aren't directly related, story-wise, despite existing in the same broad universe. You're reading more into it than there is.
I always boggle that people constantly seem to fixate on Newt and Hicks dying, when damn near everyone dies in those films, up to and including the main character of the entire franchise. As I wrote in another Alien 3 discussion recently on another forum, that movie's primary theme is about how we face our ends.
And one of the hard truths of existence is: sometimes, our end is cruel and senseless. You feel angry at Newt and Hicks buying it? Good. That's precisely the way Ripley feels, too, and your reacting to it in that way is a measure of the empathy the film rightly purchases. Loss is as much a major theme in the Alien series as nihilism is.
Keep Ripley and friends far away from this, and I’m pretty excited. Give me a weaponized Xenomorph being dropped on some slummy mining planet to quell a violent uprising, or something. Blomkamp could do this in his sleep.
Ah, well. Sharlto Copley will get to play an android in the new movie, I'm sure. Or the son of Paul Reiser.
And one of the hard truths of existence is: sometimes, our end is cruel and senseless. You feel angry at Newt and Hicks buying it? Good. That's precisely the way Ripley feels, too, and your reacting to it in that way is a measure of the empathy the film rightly purchases. Loss is as much a major theme in the Alien series as nihilism is.
Keep Ripley and friends far away from this, and I’m pretty excited. Give me a weaponized Xenomorph being dropped on some slummy mining planet to quell a violent uprising, or something. Blomkamp could do this in his sleep.
Ah, well. Sharlto Copley will get to play an android in the new movie, I'm sure. Or the son of Paul Reiser.
Because our introduction to the aliens occurs during a similar time and storyline to the aliens story, I assumed that they were inferring that they would somehow try to tie the two stories together in this upcoming film.
Maybe not. Nonetheless, I'm excited to see both. I liked Prometheus for all its flaws and Aliens 1 and 2 were groundbreaking film making.
I think their deaths work perfectly fine within the context of Alien 3, and is a really powerful way to start the movie and set up the bleak and hopeless world Ripley now finds herself in.
But when you consider the larger overall story, and all the effort that went into saving Newt in particular in the previous movie, it does still seem like an overly cruel and heartless way to treat those characters, I think (especially when one of them was just a little kid).
Scott is wrapping filming on The Martian over the next month or so, and Prometheus 2 is expected to be his next project (and I can't wait for that; Prometheus is easily one of my favorite Scott films and one of the best of 2012).
Cautiously optimistic about Blomkamp doing Alien. His short films are excellent and District 9 was great, but Elysium was just an unforgivable waste of potential and Chappie is looking like a weird mix of Short Circuit and RoboCop.
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Dark Horse comics actually did a series in the late 80s and early 90s, with Hicks and Newt-traumatized by their experiences in ALIENS-on Earth, but then confronting the Aliens on their 'homeworld'. However eventually the Aliens infest earth. Ripley eventually appears later on. It was a set of limited series written by Mark Verheiden.
However, by the time that storyline wrapped Alien3 came out, and although the basic storyline continued, the original comics were edited (and then loosely adapted into novels) with Newt and Hicks getting new names so it wouldn't contradict their deaths (Ripley, in the novels at least, was revealed to be an android). Also Hicks/"Wilks" and Newt/"Billie" to my knowledge never appeared again. What's also unfortunate is that most reprints of the stories all have the edits
It would be interesting if they used a storyline similar to the above for a new movie, if they ignore Alien3 and Ressurection.
However, by the time that storyline wrapped Alien3 came out, and although the basic storyline continued, the original comics were edited (and then loosely adapted into novels) with Newt and Hicks getting new names so it wouldn't contradict their deaths (Ripley, in the novels at least, was revealed to be an android). Also Hicks/"Wilks" and Newt/"Billie" to my knowledge never appeared again. What's also unfortunate is that most reprints of the stories all have the edits
It would be interesting if they used a storyline similar to the above for a new movie, if they ignore Alien3 and Ressurection.
Interesting; very interesting. I wonder how Scott feels about this.
Here's hoping Alien3 and 4, neither of which I've seen nor care to, are revealed to have been one big hypersleep nightmare.
Also, Bring Back Newt!
Hallelujah !
I've been desperately wanting to unwatch Alien 3 since my mate and I adjourned directly from cinema to pub, crying into our beer 'How the **** could they do THAT to Aliens ?'.
Alien 3 was nonsensical - where did the eggs on the Sulaco come from, let alone the facehuggers ?
How did they get into the cryotubes ?
Why render the whole dramatic thrust of Aliens impotent by killing Newt ?
Why the **** would you write Hicks out ?
God I loathe that ******* movie.
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