By that logic, everybody who learns those few rules would be as good as Shakespeare. That obviously isn't the case.
Alexander was a loser
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By that logic, everybody who learns those few rules would be as good as Shakespeare. That obviously isn't the case.
john titor
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Professional, not genius
Actually, no you DON'T. Your ignorance (in the subject matter at hand, and social etiquette skills) is astonishing, and is only reinforced with every post you make.
In addition, your supreme arrogance (Pretty much everyone here has disagreed with you, and offered reasons, and yet you still believe your own viewpoint to be the only possible correct one) almost rivals aforementioned ignorance.
Advice - retire from this thread with a modicum of dignity left.
Please consider yourself sufficiently put-down.
Back on topic, I think Alexander's inclusion in DS9 was a mistake. And I loved Jake being a writer - as a writer myself, and also just to add a bit of variety to the Trek universe. The episode "Shadowplay", where Jake tells his father he doesn't want to be in Starfleet, is great.
I really liked the character of Jake, and that says a lot coming from me, as I generally find most kid characters on TV shows annoying. It's difficult for writers to strike the right balance with them, making them realistic enough without making them too annoying, and with Jake they succeeded. I also liked the close relationship he had with his father. They had their disagreements, but it was obvious they had a good, strong, solid relationship.
john titor
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I like you, do you like me?
john titor
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The only worthwhile skills are maths and how to fix/build things
Now I know you're just yanking our chains, John Titor. 
Strange hobby, if you ask me, but whatever floats your boat.
Back OT (sort of), I just started rewatching the first season of DS9, and I am surprised at how non-annoying Jake is - and he has actually added some interesting stuff, considering how little screen time he's had.
But Alexander...they just never did integrate him into TNG as a character, and it got much, much, much worse on DS9. The impression given, accidentally or not, was that he had no place in his father's life and that unless he was needed as part of the plot, he was simply invisible. If that's the impression the writers wanted to give, it worked. But I don't really think that was their intention. I think they thought of him and used him simply as a prop, to be used or ignored as needed.
You can't use a child as a prop - not even on TV, not if you want the viewers to consider him a person. Edit: And not if you don't want them to lower their opinion of the child's father.
Strange hobby, if you ask me, but whatever floats your boat.Back OT (sort of), I just started rewatching the first season of DS9, and I am surprised at how non-annoying Jake is - and he has actually added some interesting stuff, considering how little screen time he's had.
But Alexander...they just never did integrate him into TNG as a character, and it got much, much, much worse on DS9. The impression given, accidentally or not, was that he had no place in his father's life and that unless he was needed as part of the plot, he was simply invisible. If that's the impression the writers wanted to give, it worked. But I don't really think that was their intention. I think they thought of him and used him simply as a prop, to be used or ignored as needed.
You can't use a child as a prop - not even on TV, not if you want the viewers to consider him a person. Edit: And not if you don't want them to lower their opinion of the child's father.
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Of course!
Anyone who actually motivates me to post here these days is OK in my book. Plus of course, you're a lot more intelligent than you're trying to let on in your posts. And intelligent people are fun.
This on a BBS about StarTrek, which is all about fictional writing, tv production, acting, direction, camera-work, CGI etc.
I am a graduate student in Artificial intelligence (a discipline that is a whole lot about math, and fixing/building things), and I very much contend that statement. World doesn't run just on math and engineering.
And yet, you (presumably) enjoy DS9, which wouldn't have been possible to be made as it was unless a bunch of people who are very skilled specifically in writing had put those talents to use.
In other words, your enjoyment of DS9 refutes what you have said in the quoted text.
Calling Jake a 'loser' or a 'slacker' is to impose 20/21st century cultural values onto him. The Federation (supposedly) doesn't run on any form of money so it's not like he needs a job to pay his bills and rent every week. Living with/near his dad isn't so big of a deal, either; especially when his dad is the pope of an alien species and their position in the quadrant puts his dad into a lot of dangerous positions; they both have each other. If Jake did want to be a writer I can imagine DS9 being a very stimulating place with all of the different species that live nearby and come through.
As for Alexander...Well, I place the blame on poor creative choices. I remember, even when I was younger, thinking they really botched his character in that episode.
As for Alexander...Well, I place the blame on poor creative choices. I remember, even when I was younger, thinking they really botched his character in that episode.
That also explains your rocking of the 5-Word-Thingy.Gee. My degree is in journalism, and I did that for a lot of years (I'm only sort-of a journalist these days). I knew we weren't held in high esteem by some, but I don't think my parents consider me a "loser" because of it.
That also explains your rocking of the 5-Word-Thingy.Gee. My degree is in journalism, and I did that for a lot of years (I'm only sort-of a journalist these days). I knew we weren't held in high esteem by some, but I don't think my parents consider me a "loser" because of it.
Aw, thanks! And I thought it was merely in-borne smartassity. I like your answer better.
And what's your excuse?
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