I saw it suggested elsewhere that maybe the trial isn't over yet, and it's actually Billy's trial, not Agatha's.
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I saw it suggested elsewhere that maybe the trial isn't over yet, and it's actually Billy's trial, not Agatha's.
He was the one wearing the crown at the end of the episode.
The song at the closing credits of this episode.
Trying to work out how long that was, 25 minutes till the credits rolled but you could probably take a few minutes more out for the 'previously on...' Felt like it was over before it started.
The 80s cabin in the woods/Evil Dead vibe was fun but didn't really have time to breathe and didn't really go anywhere.
Alice dying was an unpleasant surprise. The broomsticks were fun and man Aubrey Plaza can cackle with the best of them. I did find those early scenes quite dark, not sure if that's because I watched it in the daytime. Did anyone else have any brightness issues?
How did Agatha work out who Teen is? Was it absorbing Alice's power? And where is Billy from? Is he a Billy from another universe because I thought the Billy and Tommy in our universe were constructions of Wanda's imagination and faded away at the end of WandaVision.
I hate to say this but from really loving the opening episodes I feel like I'm liking each subsequent episode less and less. Hopefully it picks up a little.
The 80s cabin in the woods/Evil Dead vibe was fun but didn't really have time to breathe and didn't really go anywhere.
Alice dying was an unpleasant surprise. The broomsticks were fun and man Aubrey Plaza can cackle with the best of them. I did find those early scenes quite dark, not sure if that's because I watched it in the daytime. Did anyone else have any brightness issues?
How did Agatha work out who Teen is? Was it absorbing Alice's power? And where is Billy from? Is he a Billy from another universe because I thought the Billy and Tommy in our universe were constructions of Wanda's imagination and faded away at the end of WandaVision.
I hate to say this but from really loving the opening episodes I feel like I'm liking each subsequent episode less and less. Hopefully it picks up a little.
Yes. It was particularly bad in the opening.
Glad it wasn't just me!
An observation, perhaps not particularly timely or original
Teen's coming into power reminded me of how Witchcraft seems to be represented by Olsen's "finger dancing" when magical energies are being manipulated. Which of course dates back to Wanda's pre-witch appearances in the Avengers' films. This to my eyes is a contrast to the way magic is manipulated by Sorcery in Doctor Strange. Witchcraft is more wild, fluid and unpredictable. Sorcery is controlled, geometric and precise in it's movements. You learn Sorcery in schools and monasteries. You pick up Witchcraft on the streets. Witchcraft is Rock and Roll. Sorcery is Classical.
Teen's coming into power reminded me of how Witchcraft seems to be represented by Olsen's "finger dancing" when magical energies are being manipulated. Which of course dates back to Wanda's pre-witch appearances in the Avengers' films. This to my eyes is a contrast to the way magic is manipulated by Sorcery in Doctor Strange. Witchcraft is more wild, fluid and unpredictable. Sorcery is controlled, geometric and precise in it's movements. You learn Sorcery in schools and monasteries. You pick up Witchcraft on the streets. Witchcraft is Rock and Roll. Sorcery is Classical.
I thought this episode was a return to form after the previous one was a bit flat. This one really moved things forward.
I've definitely seen this pointed out before, although the music analogy is a new one for me...and I like it.
This has been a strange trend in a lot of streaming series. Netflix, MAX and Disney have all been guilty of this. One scene in House of the Dragon was done in just one brightness unit (sorry don't remember the technical term) and can be ridiculously dark especially on OLED/HDR screens.
To be fair we all sort of highly suspected who the Teen would be from the start. I liked that the episode ended with that not just being the only big deal twist. They killed Alice and had the group turn on Agatha and heck they even faked us into thinking Sharon was back to boot. Not to mention the cool broom ride that actually made me think more of the Speeder Bike chase on Endor in Return of the Jedi than I ever though it would ever do. The only drawback is I don't feel like they got enough use out their 80s slasher cabin setting other than everyone once again wearing neat clothes.
"Iron Lad"?“Wiccan” and “Hulkling” are probably among the worst named heroes in recent memory.“Speed” is pretty bad as well.
I wonder if the names for the Young Avengers were chosen to be deliberately bad? Like the kind of name that fanboys of the superhero subset would come up with?
I'm not sure Strange would agree with that analogy, as apt as it may be. You see, he likes rock and roll.
A similar, although more crude, analogy comes from Firefly, where even Inara admitted that there was a difference between a "companion", which required training, a license and a guild membership, and a, well, I'm going to use the word "prostitute" rather than the word that the show used.
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You mean the word Mal Reynolds used within the show, which represented his own attitudes, not his creators'. Joss Whedon created Mal specifically because he wished to explore writing a character whose values he strongly disagreed with.
From "Heart of Gold"...
Mal: "A whole house full of Companions. How fixed are they for payment?"
Inara: "They're not Companions. (then) They're w*****."
Mal: "I thought you didn't care much for that word."
Inara: "It applies. They're not registered with The Guild. They're..."
Mal: "Independent."
Inara: "Yes".
Kaylee even expresses her surprise when it's revealed later in that same episode that the brothel even had, her words, "boy w*****".
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Whedon could also have been trying to evoke a period feel with his use of the word, since it didn't acquire its modern derogatory sense (at least beyond general moral disapproval of sex work or promiscuous women) until the 19th century, and didn't come to be seen as exceptionally vicious until the latter half of the 20th century:
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In Shakespeare's day, for instance, it was simply a synonym for "prostitute," used casually even by characters who approved of prostitutes, such as Sir John Falstaff, who employed their services regularly. It was only seen as insulting when used to accuse non-prostitutes of sexual looseness or immorality. I've seen characters in Westerns use the term just as routinely, and of course Whedon wrote Firefly like a Western.
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In Shakespeare's day, for instance, it was simply a synonym for "prostitute," used casually even by characters who approved of prostitutes, such as Sir John Falstaff, who employed their services regularly. It was only seen as insulting when used to accuse non-prostitutes of sexual looseness or immorality. I've seen characters in Westerns use the term just as routinely, and of course Whedon wrote Firefly like a Western.
In the comics it turned out Wanda used parts of Mephisto to create Tommy and Billy, and after they were eventually erased the souls ended up being reborn as the current versions of Billy and Tommy, who end up becoming Wiccan and Speed.
Obviously since Mephisto still hasn't been introduced in the MCU they can't use him, but I could see them still using the basic idea of them having real souls who were then reincarnated after they were erased at the end of WandaVision. The only issue with that is the fact that Billy is a teenager and not 5 years old, I'm not sure how the comics addressed this if they did at all.