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After "In A Mirror Darkly"

wade8069

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So what do you think might have happened?

A war with peace loving Romulans?

Did the imperal fleet learn enough about the Defiant to recreate it?

Do you just not care?

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From what I heard, if ENT went on another season there would have been a three parter in the MU to explain what happend next! Aparently Hoshi was going to crush the terran rebelion among other things!
 
Sussman took his ideas for Season 5 and, with Ward & Gilmore, fashioned them into the Enterprise section of Star Trek Mirror Universe: Glass Empires.
 
^ There's a sequel to that too, I believe in a later MU large paperback.

It's pretty good. As with all these things, I need to re-read it to get a decent appreciation. But I certainly remember digesting the whole novella in one go, without putting it down. We get to see Empress Sato's consort, General Shran and learn that Archer's fate wasn't quite as clear cut as the end of IaMD suggested. As with the real universe, it seems the Romulans loom large on the 22nd Century horizon there too.
 
I do love the idea of the Terran Empire making war on a peaceful Romulan Star Empire... :rommie:

Of course, these Romulans would not be resource poor and would no doubt fight the Terrans to a standstill, imposing their own Neutral Zone against the Terran Empire.

(Have mirror Romulans ever been mentioned? I can't recall any.)
 
the only reference i remember is the DS9 episode where Sisko posed as Mirror Sisko and said he was going to contact the Romulans.
 
I do love the idea of the Terran Empire making war on a peaceful Romulan Star Empire... :rommie:

Of course, these Romulans would not be resource poor and would no doubt fight the Terrans to a standstill, imposing their own Neutral Zone against the Terran Empire.

(Have mirror Romulans ever been mentioned? I can't recall any.)

They are mentioned in DC's Mirror Universe Saga comic, which takes place after TSFS (and IMHO, is far preferable to TVH :angel: :lol:).

The mirror Romulans were indirectly responsible for the rise of the Terran Empire, as they defeated Earth in the Romulan War and held it for about a decade or so. Eventually a resistance movement forced them off, but instead of disbanding became a political entity that promised Earth would never be conquered again. In the modern day (that is, after TSFS), Mirror Kirk is preparing to lead an invasion of our universe by duplicating the conditions which led the original crossover. Mirror Spock chose not to overthrow him and become captain, because he felt he wouldn't have enough political support. There is some good development for him in regards to how he views our Spock.

Later our crew goes over to the MU to help David Marcus' counterpart, who is the leader of a resistance cell (M Carol Marcus is seen being killed early on, after giving the ISS Enterprise the data to make the crossover; Mirror Kirk seems to believe that David had been killed by imperial forces earlier) along with Marlena Moreau. She was inspired by her encounter with our Kirk. The mirror Klingons and Romulans are persuaded to be allies for a time, though they're depicted as being equally treacherous.
 
I do love the idea of the Terran Empire making war on a peaceful Romulan Star Empire... :rommie:

Of course, these Romulans would not be resource poor and would no doubt fight the Terrans to a standstill, imposing their own Neutral Zone against the Terran Empire.

(Have mirror Romulans ever been mentioned? I can't recall any.)

They are mentioned in DC's Mirror Universe Saga comic, which takes place after TSFS (and IMHO, is far preferable to TVH :angel: :lol:).

The mirror Romulans were indirectly responsible for the rise of the Terran Empire, as they defeated Earth in the Romulan War and held it for about a decade or so. Eventually a resistance movement forced them off, but instead of disbanding became a political entity that promised Earth would never be conquered again. In the modern day (that is, after TSFS), Mirror Kirk is preparing to lead an invasion of our universe by duplicating the conditions which led the original crossover. Mirror Spock chose not to overthrow him and become captain, because he felt he wouldn't have enough political support. There is some good development for him in regards to how he views our Spock.

Later our crew goes over to the MU to help David Marcus' counterpart, who is the leader of a resistance cell (M Carol Marcus is seen being killed early on, after giving the ISS Enterprise the data to make the crossover; Mirror Kirk seems to believe that David had been killed by imperial forces earlier) along with Marlena Moreau. She was inspired by her encounter with our Kirk. The mirror Klingons and Romulans are persuaded to be allies for a time, though they're depicted as being equally treacherous.

It will doubtlessly not surprise you that I quite like the sound of that. :D
 
I do love the idea of the Terran Empire making war on a peaceful Romulan Star Empire... :rommie:

Of course, these Romulans would not be resource poor and would no doubt fight the Terrans to a standstill, imposing their own Neutral Zone against the Terran Empire.

(Have mirror Romulans ever been mentioned? I can't recall any.)

They are mentioned in DC's Mirror Universe Saga comic, which takes place after TSFS (and IMHO, is far preferable to TVH :angel: :lol:).

The mirror Romulans were indirectly responsible for the rise of the Terran Empire, as they defeated Earth in the Romulan War and held it for about a decade or so. Eventually a resistance movement forced them off, but instead of disbanding became a political entity that promised Earth would never be conquered again. In the modern day (that is, after TSFS), Mirror Kirk is preparing to lead an invasion of our universe by duplicating the conditions which led the original crossover. Mirror Spock chose not to overthrow him and become captain, because he felt he wouldn't have enough political support. There is some good development for him in regards to how he views our Spock.

Later our crew goes over to the MU to help David Marcus' counterpart, who is the leader of a resistance cell (M Carol Marcus is seen being killed early on, after giving the ISS Enterprise the data to make the crossover; Mirror Kirk seems to believe that David had been killed by imperial forces earlier) along with Marlena Moreau. She was inspired by her encounter with our Kirk. The mirror Klingons and Romulans are persuaded to be allies for a time, though they're depicted as being equally treacherous.

It will doubtlessly not surprise you that I quite like the sound of that. :D

Then you probably won't like this then:

Romulus is destroyed by the accidental detonation of a thalaron bomb that the RSE was building for the Alliance, albeit under duress. The Romulans then join the Rebellion. Unfortunately Praetor Hiren in the MU is a complete muppet.
 
MUS is very good (and Mirror Saavik is hot :devil:). It definitely has some good development for Mirror Spock, and is actually quite consistent with how ENT portrayed the status of Vulcans as being a "conquered" race.

In a sequence I REALLY wished had been used canonically, it's shown that Spock's recovery was far more difficult. His mind was sort of in shambles to a degree, and the Vulcans can't help telepathically without making the damage worse. At one point M-Spock is sent to Vulcan to retrieve him because he was revived by Genesis, and M-Kirk believes its secrets might therefore be embedded in his genes. It's shown that the Empire has been developing some of the same technologies, like the Excelsior, but have not yet made them workable. M-Spock is revealed to have a strong hatred for his counterpart, who represents the "real" Vulcan that he was never allowed to be. The life of our Spock, who had the freedom to explore science and logic and didn't always have to watch his back, was a luxury unaffordable in the imperial universe. This is one reason he made the choice not to overthrow his Kirk after the events of "Mirror, Mirror."

To be fair, the MUS is not perfect. The writing shines in some parts and stinks in others, but it is a pretty good story. The MU counterparts we didn't get to see much of in MM reappear, though they're still not given much to do (this is partly because the writers focused on Saavik instead, as a then-newer character). Only M-Kirk gets any decent action, and some of it is great. His first idea after entering our universe is to masquerade as the destroyed USS Enterprise and attack unsuspecting Federation forces. Since the TOS crew has not yet returned home to hear whatever results may have come from their actions in TSFS, it seems reasonable that word of the loss of our Enterprise isn't common knowledge yet in the fleet.
 
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