Advice, please!

[Cheapjack]

What is it about people at the moment, if you think of something, the jerk above you immediately repeats it as if he thought of it?

You know, the jerk at the office party, who won't even turn his head in your direction, in the circle of drinkers, and has a filtered delay in his conversation, which basically repeats what you have said, with the words mixed round?

And, can get you the sack, if you spit in the slightest?

Makes out he is a 'people person', too, but uses everyone like toilet paper and thinks you're a clown, cos you don't?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

What is it about people at the moment, if you think of something, the jerk above you immediately repeats it as if he thought of it?

You know, the jerk at the office party, who won't even turn his head in your direction, in the circle of drinkers, and has a filtered delay in his conversation, which basically repeats what you have said, with the words mixed round?

And, can get you the sack, if you spit in the slightest?

Makes out he is a 'people person', too, but uses everyone like toilet paper and thinks you're a clown, cos you don't?

 

[Gov Kodos]

You know, the jerk at the office party, who won't even turn his head in your direction, in the circle of drinkers, and has a filtered delay in his conversation, which basically repeats what you have said, with the words mixed round?

What is it about people at the moment, if you think of something, the jerk above you immediately repeats it as if he thought of it?

Damn unoriginal!

 

[Cheapjack]

Very funny.

I made a comment, a few years ago, about how some people like to dump on others, in the workplace and I don't think many human beings have been as mentally tortured as I have because of it. Apologising does no good. If I keep my ideas to myself I am secretive and sly and cliquey and unsociable. I get two hours to develop them and at any point, they could get taken off me and someone else's name put on them. And, if I won't get my head down, I'm lazy.

 

[Gov Kodos]

It is a downside to our supposed meritocratic, but ultimately 'success alone makes one worthy' society. One has to be able to play office politics competently to survive in many jobs, especially in a lean and ugly economy.

 

[Cheapjack]

Thanks.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Boris Drubetskoy, a worthless and talentless git with no skills but the ability to schmooze and tell the right people what they want to hear. He moves quickly up the ranks of Russian society in 'War and Peace'. While only a fiction, one finds many such characters in life, because so many people are vain enough to need people telling them they made the right decisions and are good at making excuses for bad ones to provide cover. Until that superior isn't needed for advancement anymore, of course.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

CJ, I believe I did recommend a book to you on how to play office politics. It's a bonus if you get a stiffy every time you dump on some one else without it rebounding on you. Not only do you get better with practice; it becomes addictive. Of course, society and civilisation eventually go down the toilet, but, hey, who cares as long as you're alright in the short to medium term.

 

[Cheapjack]

People who are very good at 'willing you to fail' are common, too.

Who is the more admirable, the one who is trying, or the one who is 'willing him to fail'?

They can get you stuck in that paradox for decades.



Asbo, I've amazoned 'office politics'. Thanks.

 

[Mr Awe]

Cheapjack, unfortunately there are people like that all around. You have to stay wary and keep your distance when you can. Unfortunately, there is no magic that will make them go away. In fact, their schmoozing abilities will often get them promoted.

One thing you can do is to actually adopt some of their practices so it can work for you to. There's nothing wrong with being a "people person". And, it's great to network. You can do that without using people or taking their ideas. Use that people/networking power for good.

Mr Awe

 

[Mr Awe]

Very funny.

I made a comment, a few years ago, about how some people like to dump on others, in the workplace and I don't think many human beings have been as mentally tortured as I have because of it. Apologising does no good. If I keep my ideas to myself I am secretive and sly and cliquey and unsociable. I get two hours to develop them and at any point, they could get taken off me and someone else's name put on them. And, if I won't get my head down, I'm lazy.

I've told you this before but I'll say this again: Network!

Make sure that when you have good ideas, multiple people know that it orginated with you. You put yourself in this position by allowing one person to have this capability. The best offense is just to put the idea out there yourself in a public manner so people know that you're the idea person.

Keeping your head buried like that just makes it easier for people to walk over you and take your ideas.

Mr Awe

 

[Scout101]

Unless your ideas are bad, or just common sense, in which case, people WILL think of you as special, but not the kind of special you want...

How is it that in most of your threads, people are stealing your ideas? Are you just walking around talking to yourself? People breaking in and reading your diary/notebooks? Ordinary ideas, that other people are just better at DOING something about while you're just sitting around thinking? Or just jealousy over things that others thought of, that maybe you'd touched on glancingly but never done anything about?

 

[Shatnertage]

I saw this movie the other night called Harry Brown. My first thought was, this movie is like someone filmed a Cheapjack post. Michael Caine went vigilante on a bunch of thugs who were terrorizing the neighborhood and probably breaking into people's flats and beating them up because they were reading (we didn't see that part, just saw them murder his best friend).

Is that what it's like where you live? If so, I'll repeat my advice to get out. Or at least stop sharing ideas with people you are convinced are stealing them.

 

[JarodRussell]

I think you need to change your workplace.

 

[sojourner]

Jarod, I like the quote in your signature, have no idea where it's from. I would be tempted to add one more piece of dialog at the end: "Didn't I just decline your help?"

 

[Australis]

I think you need to change your workplace.

I think he needs to change his BBS.

 

[Cheapjack]

I think you need to change your workplace.

I think he needs to change his BBS.

'Oh, why does everybody hate me so?'

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'Oliver Twist'

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I don't hate you. I find it difficult to take you seriously. You write in such generalities that it's hard to believe the stories you tell - they don't seem to have an air of credibility.

 

[Shatnertage]

I don't hate you either--I felt bad for you when I was watching Harry Brown. If that's really what it's like where you live.

And you're not the only one who does the "me vs. the world" thing around here, even though you don't clothe your contempt for those around you in political or pseudo-intellectual trappings like most folks do. With you, it's just straight-out paranoia/envy, which is in and of itself kind of refreshing in its honesty.

 

[Australis]

I don't hate you. Just tired of you. I keep coming into these threads in hope of some good news, and instead...