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"Admit it's a reboot!!!" Who cares, really.

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Anyone get what I'm saying here?

Hint: Notice the blue path continues after the time jump...
 
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Anyone get what I'm saying here?



Hint: Notice the blue path continues after the time jump...
Yeah. OK. That works for me, too. Again, thanks to my comic book geekery, a Star Trek multi-verse is also something I can live with. After all, we already have the Mirror Universe.

As I've said before, good story; good characters; I'll forgive a lot.

The ultimate point is, I don't need to have JJ and Co. "admit" anything. I can see the evidence. It's an all-new Trek. Define that as a reboot, remake, or what have you. As an old school Trekfan (42 years and counting), I'm fine with this in principle.
 
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Anyone get what I'm saying here?



Hint: Notice the blue path continues after the time jump...
Yeah. OK. That works for me, too. Again, thanks to my comic book geekery, a Star Trek multi-verse is also something I can live with. After all, we already have the Mirror Universe.

As I've said before, good story; good characters; I'll forgive a lot.

The ultimate point is, I don't need to have JJ and Co. "admit" anything. I can see the evidence. It's an all-new Trek. Define that as a reboot, remake, or what have you. As an old school Trekfan (42 years and counting), I'm fine with this in principle.

Do I hear some sensibility here?!?! :eek: *Please refer to sig*

Even according to real scientific theory, Spock could time travel and the Trek standard would not change.
Only he would have created a new Universe running parallel to ours, but slightly different due to his incursion.
 
Because they've gone through a very elaborate, and tedious, song and dance about how it isn't a reboot and that "there's a canon explanation for everything". At this point, it's looking like that "canon explanation" is that canon has been wiped out.

In short, JJ and Co. have been lying through their teeth about what they're doing from the beginning, and they are continuing to lie to us every time they trot out this "not really a reboot" crap! Not only is this blatantly dishonest, it's also disrespectful of the fanbase to such a degree that, had he tried this crap in the not-too-distant past, there would've been protests outside the Paramount gates with JJ being burned in effigy.

What I really find dismaying is that so many so-called fans are not only okay with being lied to, they're actually applauding this fraud.
Gundam went though several reboots. So did Batman. It wasn't so bad for those shows.

In fact, TPTB haven't gone though a very elaborate, and tedious, song and dance about how it isn't a reboot and that "there's a canon explanation for everything". They only mentioned it a few times. In reality, some fans on the forums have done that.

You want to know something. Every single episode of Star Trek has been a community effort. They were written by several people with input from many others. It is impossible to maintain a strong continuity among so much television. You yourself pick and chose which canon to maintain based on your own tastes. Warp9 denies anything not created directly by Roddenberry. Some people deny Star Trek V or parts of Voyager or Enterprise. Some even include DS9 in that and some more of the movies. Even movies like Star Trek 2, 3, and 4, which is supposed to be a trilogy, have contradictions. If the standard of continuity that you demand is used on the rest of Star Trek, then every single episode of Star Trek takes place in its own universe. Don't be so demanding!
 
Do I hear some sensibility here?!?! :eek:
I'm trying. I just wonder when a fictional universe became constricted by religious dogma. Hell, even Doyle couldn't remember where Watson's war wound was (he said, alliteravely) and as near as we can tell, he was the only author of the original Holmes ... canon (Oh, God, I said it).
 
Do I hear some sensibility here?!?! :eek:
I'm trying. I just wonder when a fictional universe became constricted by religious dogma. Hell, even Doyle couldn't remember where Watson's war wound was (he said, alliteravely) and as near as we can tell, he was the only author of the original Holmes ... canon (Oh, God, I said it).

I appreciate canon, and I intend to stick to it for my own fanfic stories, and I hope any Trek continuing after Nemesis tries to(without restricting creativity). But sometimes canon runs it's course, and in this case I feel it has and it's time to begin anew.:)
 
You know, any time a new Star Trek project comes out my default reaction is :

"New Star Trek? Cool"

which remains with me until I've seen the fucking thing, and at least until I get home and digest what I've seen onscreen. Sadly, a small yet vocal part of this vastly diverse "fanbase" has a default attitude of "No" to virtually every new Trek project unless it conforms to their strictly defined parameters of what they think a Star Trek movie/series/book/comic/lego play set/Hamburger/tire iron/aadvark/hooker should be.

They have an inability to take each venture on its own merits, happy in the knowledge that their narrow-minded view is the only correct way to think.

That said, I find it amusing that people think this way and I encourage them to continue in this lunacy. It sure makes me feel a whole lot better about myself :lol:
 
I can't recall the number of times I've read "I'm a long time fan, and I think this movie will be good".

I also can't recall the number of times I've read "Ewww, the film will suck and no one will see it".

The difference is that the positive posts come from a different person each time, while the negative come from the same 4-5 posters over and over and over again.

Isn't it time they just stopped? They're already convinced of their position, and the positives are convinced of theirs.

Let. It. Go.
 
Like I said before I don't care if it's a reboot. It looks like it's going to be a fun movie and I'm happy Trek may be popular again.

Yeah, me too.

@to somebody else and not Kirk-Fu :
Honestly, where do you get those informations that make you think that "Enterprise ISN"T built in Iowa" ? Did TOS TV series and movies confirms that? or it just come from a novel / data books / technical books or something?

It's in every ep of TOS, right next to the turbolift on the bridge on the ship's commissioning/dedication plaque. It gives her name, class, and place of commissioning: San Francisco, California.

Look, I don't mind so much that it's a "reboot". . If I had to judge it against the "known" Trek universe, I would have to judge it very harshly...it violates canon numerous times, and does it without remorse. It being a reboot will allow me to watch and enjoy the movie on its OWN merits

IMO, the only reason JJ doesn't want to CALL it a "reboot" is because of the big stink over the Battlestar Galactica reboot. JJ didn't want an angry, VERY vocal group of fans carrying on for months and months about "continuing, NOT rebooting" and driving away the mainstream audience he hopes to attract.

Of course, he's gotten a modicum of that in any event...
 
To Clarify, there is no Star Trek Lego set...yet.

Keep a look out for the Star Trek Aadvark however. And the hooker.
 
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