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Wow, I never pictured they meant the same Archer. I always assumed he/she was a descendant. And the dog obviously was.
Daniels must have taken Jon on some more trips; I think Orci doesn't know just how old he would be. One hundred, fifty is more than even I can chew.
From here (May 22 Q&A):Can't find the article link right now...but the film's writers indicated in a recent interview that the "Admirial Archer" mentioned onscreen is in fact the same character from Enterprise. However, they did state that the beagle in Star Trek 09 would be a different beagle than Porthos.![]()
There's nothing about Porthos in this one, but even a spectacular increase in beagle life expectancy wouldn't be enough to explain it being anything but a different beagle which failed to rematerialize at the end of Scotty's experimental procedure.Sarek: Is the “Admiral Archer” mentioned in the film intended to be Johnathan Archer from Enterprise? If so, he would be over a hundred years old Does the Enterprise timeline exist in this new reality?
BobOrci: yes, it is Admiral Archer is a reference to the Archer we all know and love, and yes he would be over 100, which is a likely life expectancy in a futuristic space faring race of humans (as depicted by McCoy’s (Deforest Kelley) in THE NEXT GENERATION.
That depends on what the prevailing tradition of the time is. In the Boy Scouts for instance (which Starfleet has more in common with than it does the military sometimes) the president of the United States is the honorary president of the Boy Scouts as well. He's also commonly called the Chief Scout Executive of the US. It would not be out of place for a Scouter to refer to Chief Obama.If you're in the service, you do not refer to any president, current or former, by their military rank. Not ever. It would be a horrible breach of military protocol. You call them "Mister/Madam President," period.
If Starfleet considers the president of the Federation to be the "Federation Admiral" or the "Admiral of Starfleet," or some other fun tradition like that it would be entirely appropriate to refer to him as "Admiral Archer." This would be especially true of Archer since he's a genuine, from-the-ground-up Starfleet officer and not just "Admiral" by way of election.
Salvor, I did read that. McCoy was decrepit at 134; 150 is too much. I don't think Orci realized it would be 150. "Over 100" and 150 are not the same.
I suspect that Orci is completely aware of how old Archer would be. Orci is a fan who even posts from time to time at TrekMovie.
Do you post here often? Four posts in a row is spamming -- in addition to off-topic ad hominem commments.But Trek fans being...well Trek fans they just ignore the obvious and the facts and go on wild geese chases.
LOL...this is a perfect description of many of the arguments on TrekBBS.
This sounds like an opportune place to point out to KingstonTrekker the Multi-Quote button [Salvor, I did read that. McCoy was decrepit at 134; 150 is too much. I don't think Orci realized it would be 150. "Over 100" and 150 are not the same.
I suspect that Orci is completely aware of how old Archer would be. Orci is a fan who even posts from time to time at TrekMovie.
Do you post here often? Four posts in a row is spamming -- in addition to off-topic ad hominem comments.But Trek fans being...well Trek fans they just ignore the obvious and the facts and go on wild geese chases.
LOL...this is a perfect description of many of the arguments on TrekBBS.
Several of us have said he could have.Who's to say that Archer and Porthos didn't get into some wacky temporal adventure at some point in time?
Who's to say that Archer and Porthos didn't get into some wacky temporal adventure at some point in time?
From here (May 22 Q&A):
There's nothing about Porthos in this oneSarek: Is the “Admiral Archer” mentioned in the film intended to be Johnathan Archer from Enterprise? If so, he would be over a hundred years old Does the Enterprise timeline exist in this new reality?
BobOrci: yes, it is Admiral Archer is a reference to the Archer we all know and love, and yes he would be over 100, which is a likely life expectancy in a futuristic space faring race of humans (as depicted by McCoy’s (Deforest Kelley) in THE NEXT GENERATION.
QUESTION: Forget with it was Admiral Jon Archer (as it obviously was!): is the beagle mentioned Porthos? Has veterinary science advanced so much? (Please say yes!)
BobOrci: YES!
This sounds like an opportune place to point out to KingstonTrekker the Multi-Quote button [I suspect that Orci is completely aware of how old Archer would be. Orci is a fan who even posts from time to time at TrekMovie.
Do you post here often? Four posts in a row is spamming -- in addition to off-topic ad hominem comments.But Trek fans being...well Trek fans they just ignore the obvious and the facts and go on wild geese chases.
LOL...this is a perfect description of many of the arguments on TrekBBS.]. Click this on each post to which you wish to reply, then click 'Post Reply' and all of your responses will be contained within a single post, eliminating the triple- or quadruple-post problem, which may indeed be considered spamming and can be warnable as such.![]()
Also, KingstonTrekker, if you've just posted something and a minute later think of something else you wanted to say, use the 'Edit' button to add to your already-existing post instead of making a new post. In the case of the second of your posts quoted above, however, not posting it at all would have been a far better choice, as it added nothing to the discussion and is, as pointed out, off-topic and intended as nothing more than a slap at other TrekBBS posters, rather than addressing what they've said. Don't do this again, please.
If this is aimed at me, I wasn't making a personal comment to you. I thought you might not know the rules.However, I also hope that the original poster received the same warning (since he/she was also off-topic) and that similiar warnings are given for the similar comments that are made on here regularly...
If this is aimed at me, I wasn't making a personal comment to you. I thought you might not know the rules.However, I also hope that the original poster received the same warning (since he/she was also off-topic) and that similiar warnings are given for the similar comments that are made on here regularly...
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