Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popular

[Captain Shaw]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

They're severely pruning their website. It would be interesting to know how many staff they employ to keep it maintained, since it's heeowge.

3 guys in a shed.

The shed has been axed am afraid

Did someone let top gear near it.

 

[Davros]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

They're severely pruning their website. It would be interesting to know how many staff they employ to keep it maintained, since it's heeowge.

3 guys in a shed.

The shed has been axed am afraid

They had money for an axe?

 

[Starkers]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

And why do people always go to the "Over paid stars" thing? It seems many are working for less than they could be getting elsewhere already, so reducing the money paid to talent just means there's a drain to commercial TV, so the BBC just have to spend money building up more talent to take their place, who then sod off to another channel again.

To be honest that's the same arguments the banks use. Oh if we don't pay them bonuses they'll bugger off to another bank!

Fine. Let them. If someone can earn more at ITV let them, because this comes back to Eve's (flawed) argument again, keeping so called celebs in place at high cost stops someone better coming through. Nobody is irreplacable, and bringing this back to this very board, I'm glad the BBC let Tennant leave rather than offering him the Earth to stay (and who knows maybe they did offer him the Earth and he still said bye bye) because in my eyes we got a better Doctor to replace him.

And it isn't just about paying the famous people either. Surprised I managed to find this but still...£92,000, for reading the news.

I pretty much agree with you on that. People should be told to sod off and not given in to if they demand too much, much like Christine Bleakly or whatever her name is. But there's a level of investment there and time taken to make someone a name they can place in the role. Jonathan Ross for example has been on the air for decades, from crappy little shows on Channel 4 till he became big enough to hold his own on BBC One friday nights. People don't just appear and suddenly be right for roles like that.
Just stick some nobody in the role and people will probably not tune in and then the show won't rate well and then people will complain about the BBC airing shows no one is watching in Prime Time.

Completely agree, and I wouldn't advocate nothing but newcomers on the BBC, as with most things the Beeb does there has to be a fine line trodden, I just don't think they should fear losing there top talent so long as there's a next level down coming up, there should always be a new crop coming through, and I wonder how many of them end up leaving because they can't break the glass ceiling? Nobody comes to mind but Im tired, nerons not firing at full speed

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

To be honest that's the same arguments the banks use. Oh if we don't pay them bonuses they'll bugger off to another bank!

Fine. Let them. If someone can earn more at ITV let them, because this comes back to Eve's (flawed) argument again, keeping so called celebs in place at high cost stops someone better coming through. Nobody is irreplacable, and bringing this back to this very board, I'm glad the BBC let Tennant leave rather than offering him the Earth to stay (and who knows maybe they did offer him the Earth and he still said bye bye) because in my eyes we got a better Doctor to replace him.

And it isn't just about paying the famous people either. Surprised I managed to find this but still...£92,000, for reading the news.

I pretty much agree with you on that. People should be told to sod off and not given in to if they demand too much, much like Christine Bleakly or whatever her name is. But there's a level of investment there and time taken to make someone a name they can place in the role. Jonathan Ross for example has been on the air for decades, from crappy little shows on Channel 4 till he became big enough to hold his own on BBC One friday nights. People don't just appear and suddenly be right for roles like that.
Just stick some nobody in the role and people will probably not tune in and then the show won't rate well and then people will complain about the BBC airing shows no one is watching in Prime Time.

Completely agree, and I wouldn't advocate nothing but newcomers on the BBC, as with most things the Beeb does there has to be a fine line trodden, I just don't think they should fear losing there top talent so long as there's a next level down coming up, there should always be a new crop coming through, and I wonder how many of them end up leaving because they can't break the glass ceiling? Nobody comes to mind but Im tired, nerons not firing at full speed

I think the thing that has to go are the golden hand cuff deals. £18m and you do nothing but work for us. Pay them a quarter of that and let them do whatever they want, so long as it doesn't break a contract stipulation in relation to their work.

 

[Starkers]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

Yeah I've never understood those deals. I mean I appreciate someone might watch Graham Norton on ITV because they like him on the Beeb, but surely the reverse is also a possibility!

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

Yeah I've never understood those deals. I mean I appreciate someone might watch Graham Norton on ITV because they like him on the Beeb, but surely the reverse is also a possibility!

I suppose it's more to do with they don't want their investment in talent to be a bonus for their competitors, still daft though.

 

[Captain Shaw]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

I pretty much agree with you on that. People should be told to sod off and not given in to if they demand too much, much like Christine Bleakly or whatever her name is. But there's a level of investment there and time taken to make someone a name they can place in the role. Jonathan Ross for example has been on the air for decades, from crappy little shows on Channel 4 till he became big enough to hold his own on BBC One friday nights. People don't just appear and suddenly be right for roles like that.
Just stick some nobody in the role and people will probably not tune in and then the show won't rate well and then people will complain about the BBC airing shows no one is watching in Prime Time.

Completely agree, and I wouldn't advocate nothing but newcomers on the BBC, as with most things the Beeb does there has to be a fine line trodden, I just don't think they should fear losing there top talent so long as there's a next level down coming up, there should always be a new crop coming through, and I wonder how many of them end up leaving because they can't break the glass ceiling? Nobody comes to mind but Im tired, nerons not firing at full speed

I think the thing that has to go are the golden hand cuff deals. £18m and you do nothing but work for us. Pay them a quarter of that and let them do whatever they want, so long as it doesn't break a contract stipulation in relation to their work.

I have said this before, because the BBC will still have the person for what ever show they are best known for, but they would not be putting the person all over the BBC doing crap shows just to try to justified their wages.

 

[OmahaStar]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

I'm glad the BBC let Tennant leave rather than offering him the Earth to stay (and who knows maybe they did offer him the Earth and he still said bye bye) because in my eyes we got a better Doctor to replace him.

They did. I thought I remembered something about an astronomical payday, and went to google to confirm. The BBC offered him one point five million pounds to stay on and do a fifth season after it returned from the "specials" year. He declined, and they went with Smith instead.

source one out of several.

 

[Starkers]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

...and Tennant goes up a notch in my estimation.

Of course maybe he thought he'd earn oodles more in the US

Nah, I think he, as a fan, knew well enough that it was time to move on.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Re: Actor says shows like DW shouldn't be supported by BBC once popula

...and Tennant goes up a notch in my estimation.

Of course maybe he thought he'd earn oodles more in the US

Nah, I think he, as a fan, knew well enough that it was time to move on.

Well he said often enough that it was very tiring and as much as he loved the job he didn't want it to become safe and secure otherwise he'd never move on to other things.