That's my whole point. Georgiou may be evil, and I regard her as such. I also don't care what the writers thing I should think about her. I think she is evil but not irredeemably so.
About Mirror Georgiou in ”Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2“
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I'm just wondering, are the people defending the poor poor murder bot the same ones that wanted to see Thor violently murder Thanos?
Both committed serious large scale murder of sapient life, so why is seeing the big purple guy getting his ass whooped fine but the not living thing that blew up entire planets without any attempt to leave any survivors the thing we need to lose sleep over?
Or is Thor no better a person than Georgiou, because he got a lot of fun out of smashing things with faces.
Both committed serious large scale murder of sapient life, so why is seeing the big purple guy getting his ass whooped fine but the not living thing that blew up entire planets without any attempt to leave any survivors the thing we need to lose sleep over?
Or is Thor no better a person than Georgiou, because he got a lot of fun out of smashing things with faces.
The later one. Delight in a person's suffering is not something that I find particularly morally appealing.
Thor took 1500 years of delight in doing just that, we even get to see some of it. Georgiou won't make it to 150.
Georgiou is also a Starfleet officer, sworn in by the Admiral shortly after season 1. She seemed not much more evil than the rest of 31.
^ You sure you're not getting your Georgious confused?
We never saw a person's suffering. We saw Control faking it.
We never saw a person's suffering. We saw Control faking it.
I skipped 12 pages to post a reply, so apologies if this was mentioned earlier, but let us also consider in cross-franchise goings on, all the non-combatants working on the Death Star that Luke caused the deaths of. Not just the storm troopers and military folk, but the maintenance workers, medical crew, janitors, general laborers who found themselves needing a job and so took menial tasks employed by The Empire on their new space station.
Given the size of the thing (and wikipedia entries) I'm guessing well over 1 MILLION people. And really, there were what, like 12 really bad/evil people...
It could be argued that it wasn't Luke's fault, that it was in fact the Empire which caused all that - simply by existing.
Nope, both of them are Starfleet officers. His argument was "but Starfleet!", well...yeah so is everyone in Section 31, being an officer doesn't seem to mean much now.
I'm not aware of any reference to MU Georgiou actually serving in her universe's Starfleet.
*headdesk* she's part of the Prime Starfleet, in season 2. That's the point.
Only to the extent that she is posing as her own prime universe counterpart.
You said, and I quote, "both of them are Starfleet officers". This is not necessarily the case. (Although it is entirely possible that MU Georgiou did, at one point, serve in the Imperial Starfleet, it has not been proven true.)
It does beg the question, though, regarding how many people actually knew that S31's Georgiou is from the MU. Pike probably did (his wink as he said "What mirror universe?" seemed to bear that out), and I'm sure Leland and Tyler did, but we don't know how many people in Starfleet knew the truth.
She works for a division of Starfleet, has been given clearance and a position on a ship. Her identity doesn't really enter into it, she is working for SF.
Regardless, all her co-workers are on assignments killing ambassadors, dethroning leaders of worlds, doing any evil deed they like and they're all Prime people.
I didn't get that impression. Nhan may have been looking forward to seeing Control go down, I don't think she knew what would eventually happen.
I'm pretty sure that an on-screen reference was made to Emperor Georgiou having favored her Michael with command of her own previous ship, the Shenzhou. That would have been prior to her elevation to Emperor.
Also, MU Georgiou was recruited into Section 31 with Section 31's knowledge of whom she really was. So regardless of previous service, that would make her a Starfleet officer, since Section 31 appears to be part of Starfleet at this point in history.
Nhan's not getting her own show...that's the difference
Nope. In DSC, Section 31 is a sanctioned part of Starfleet.
She wasn't, there was no torture, they fought an AI.
