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A TMP era TWOK?

Warped9

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This isn’t meant as a debate of the merits of TWOK vs. TMP. Suffice to say after all these years TMP, particularly the recent 2022 DE, is my favourite of the Trek films. TWOK is second despite my reservations. They’re somewhat like two sides of the same coin.

Whatever. Although I enjoyed TWOK when it debuted, and each of the successive films in varying degree as they were released, I am disappointed we never got a TMP era followup with the crew now into a new deep space mission.

So what if the-powers-that-be had said, “Yeah, we’re making money, enough to warrant a followup, but the next one has got to have more zip, more energy, to it.” So they green-light TWOK story, but with some tweaks to fit it closer to the events in TMP.

Something like this. The refit Enterprise is two or three years into its current 5-year mission (this fits with the three years that actually passed between TMP and TWOK). Much of the sets and costumes are retained except for tweaking the uniforms, but particularly jettisoning the fugly one-piece jumpsuits. Chekov has since been been promoted off-ship and assigned to Reliant as we later learn. A worried Starfleet assigns the Enterprise to investigate the sudden silence of Reliant that was involved in a highly sensitive experiment.

I never cared for the David Marcus element. In this story set years earlier than what we saw David would be too young to have been involved in such scientific research. But it could still be Carol Marcus at the forefront of the Genesis research, with or without a young David hanging around (preferably without). Saavik we keep with Chekov now assigned somewhere else.

The rest of the story unfolds largely similar to what we got.


It’s just a thought.
 
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Same here, loved the onesie uniforms; to me it felt futuristic. All I would've altered were the bland colors and instead embrace the color uniform scheme of Green, Blue, and Red from TOS. TMP story and characters just doesn't jibe with a TWOK storyline; those version of the characters felt beyond that kind of TV leveled tale. A direct sequel to TMP can't be a popcorn roller coaster ride but more in the vein of 2010. More exploratory drivel of the human condition, going and challenging the limits of human comprehension, deep space adventure which would parallel the previous works by Robert Wise when it came to science fiction.

I wouldn't be surprise that version of the 1701 crew explore A.I. or robotics something Isaac Asimov has grounded so well with readers throughout the world. I could also see something like that would be in the Avatar scale of budget which would bankrupt the studio.
 
So what if the-powers-that-be had said, “Yeah, we’re making money, enough to warrant a followup, but the next one has got to have more zip, more energy, to it.”

Isn't that what they said?

That sounds pretty much like what we got, but with different uniforms and no David. I'm not sure what value moving it a few years earlier in the timeline would really have.
 
I HATE the monster maroons.

Let Morrow and Cartwright wear them…but that’s later.

The positive TMP look means no Khan to me. I might mix a little Voyage Home in this and have the Genesis wave stir up something, and Reliant captured by that.

No Ceti eels, but some mind control.

TWOK was a slasher movie…the Enterprise bled. 1982 came out the same year as THE THING…a year after The Road Warrior. You could feel their influence in TWOK.

A TMP movie might actually have a ST III touch, Enterprise coming upon a damaged K’tinga with the “werewolf” Klingons…looking as they do after an atomic civil war….picking up the pieces after V’ger and thinking it a returning Terran super weapon…looking for someone to blame.

Genesis is now an offer to clean up a Praxis event….V’ger having downloaded a vast store of Data in Earth’s computers before vanishing. Genesis came from that data.

Here, you can keep some of that TMP/TOS nobility without “Immortan Khan” dragging you along Fury Road.

On a side-note, William Smith’s character (the Traybor) from Buck Rogers might have been a subliminal Khan influence, I think:

https://basementrejects.com/wp-cont...r-william-smith-review-episode-guide-list.jpg
https://kooltvblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/kool-tv-feature-1000-25th-century-guy.html?m=1

I get the feeling that character might have gotten into the subconscious of TWOK’s makers somehow. I can’t prove it though.
 
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TWOK was a slasher movie…the Enterprise bled. 1982 came out the same year as THE THING…a year after The Road Warrior. You could feel their influence in TWOK.

What? TWOK was released on June 4, 1982 ; The Thing on June 25, 1982. TWOK was already shot and in the can while the Carpenter film was still in production, and bears no influence from the Carpenter film at all. AS stated for over four decades, TWOK brought Star Trek back to its heart and soul which was nowhere to be found in TMP, hence its status as the film that saved the ST franchise, and that was not going to happen taking cues from The Thing or The Road Warrior.
 
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