A small point about "Adam & Eve"

[Mallet]

Most theories about Adam & Eve that I have read online usually have them being Kate & Jack, or Rose and Bernard, Or Sun & Jin, or whoever. Pick your couple. And they usually involve the two of them (whoever they are) getting stuck in the past together and living life alone on the island until they die. Pretty standard theory and it makes sense given the time travel that's involved in the storyline. But...

I've been rewatching season one this week and just saw the episode where they find Adam & Eve and I noticed something that seems to have be forgotten in most of the theories out there about Adam & Eve.

Adam & Eve were not alone. Someone else placed them in the cave after they died. Jack says so when he is examining the bodies and you can see that the bodies have been "fixed-up" after their deaths. The bodies hands/arms are crossed in front of their bodies in a traditional way burying dead people.

So that means it just wasn't Adam & Eve there, but they were with at least one other person who placed them in the caves after they died.

It's a small point, but I thought I'd mention it.

I also noticed that Jack said the bodies had been there for 40 or 50 years. Since the show takes place in 2004 that means that Adam & Eve died sometime between about 1954 to 1964.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Hmmm...very nice point. I thought you were going to bring up the black and white stones, but I must admit I completely forgot about the posing of the bodies.

The 50's was one of the points that the Losties jumped to as seen in "Jughead."

 

[Morpheus 02]

Good poitn about the body placement...but just because Jack said the bodies were 40-50 years old, doesn't mean he's exactly right.

It's not like he had forensic equipment...just based on what he saw, he guessed. Certainly more than a couple years, and probably less than a century.

And with the weather on the island...? Seems like it could still be someone from the 70's....but it could also be someone from the 50'sas well...hopefully, we'll find out!

 

[blockaderunner]

It's Niki and Paulo. Someone (probably Smokey/Jacob/Esau/Four-Toes) dug them up and put them there as a joke. Who said the Island doesn't have a sense of humor?

Or a wizard did it. Works for Lucy Lawless.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

Its a good catch, but I think at the time they didn't really have a clear idea of who Adam and Eve were, and eventually the Rose/Bernard in the past stuff was supposed to answer that definitively. I dont think they'll address this little point.

 

[SinglePurpose]

Its a good catch, but I think at the time they didn't really have a clear idea of who Adam and Eve were, and eventually the Rose/Bernard in the past stuff was supposed to answer that definitively. I dont think they'll address this little point.

Take this as you wish but the producers have said that they specifically put Adam and Eve in there so that when the show is finished people would realize that they weren't just making it all up as they went along.

 

[Mallet]

Its a good catch, but I think at the time they didn't really have a clear idea of who Adam and Eve were, and eventually the Rose/Bernard in the past stuff was supposed to answer that definitively. I dont think they'll address this little point.

Take this as you wish but the producers have said that they specifically put Adam and Eve in there so that when the show is finished people would realize that they weren't just making it all up as they went along.

I think that the producers saying that is a bit of a cop out. They could have said that about anything, or thrown any question or strange thing into the first few episodes and said the same thing about that. And then all they would have to do is add in some throwaway line near the end of the series to answer that one question and then go "See! We did have it all planned out." When it's pretty clear that they didn't.

I do believe that they did have a general idea of where they were going with the series and a general idea of what was going on on the island, but I also believe that they have strayed far from their original plans and have had to fix things up "on the fly" and have also gone down different paths then they had thought of. Not that this is a bad thing, it's just how things go when you are dealing with networks, studios, actors, producers, etc...

here's a quick list off the top of my head of things/plans/storylines that they have changed "mid-stream":

-Nikki & Polo were supposed to be regulars and were going to have a major storyline involving the island. Both killed off due to fan backlash.
-Mr. Eko and Anna-Lucia were supposed to be major characters with an important role in the storyline. Both killed off due to outside circumstances.
-Ben Linus was supposed to be a small supporting character that was killed off after 4 episodes. This is a biggie, look how major a part Ben has become. The whole series is almost his story these last 2 seasons. That obviously wasn't intended from the get go.

There are more like this, but those are the first few that came to mind.

So the producers can say all they want about having things worked out from the beginning. Sure, they might have decided "what" the island was at the beginning. And they might have even know what they wanted the fate of Jack's character to be, but as for the rest of it... I doubt it. I think they are making up a lot of it as they go along.

Which, again, not a bad thing, as long as they manage to tie up all the loose ends, answer all the major questions, and bring everything together in the last 16 episodes.

 

[spocksbrain]

I have to think Adam and Eve are a very minor mystery, probably deemed not worth clearing up ... or maybe given another one or two minutes of air time at the most. Why? Because I had forgotten all about them until I saw this thread, and I've watched all five seasons twice through. They were in that one single episode and never ever mentioned again. Every other mystery on Lost has had more than 60 seconds devoted to it on way more than one episode. It's probably just a forgetten little piece of intrigue that could have been expanded on and then was dropped (see the poster above me for many examples of things like this).

 

[Hober Mallow]

-Ben Linus was supposed to be a small supporting character that was killed off after 4 episodes. This is a biggie, look how major a part Ben has become. The whole series is almost his story these last 2 seasons. That obviously wasn't intended from the get go.

That's not quite true. Henry Gale was supposed to be killed off. Ben Linus was supposed to be introduced in season three. Instead, they decided it would be cooler to keep Henry alive and reveal he is actually Ben Linus, leader of the Others. Hardly a major deviation of the story.