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A Serious Flaw In The Bridge Design?

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Another TOS fan pointed out a defect in the bridge design; I'm pretty sure it was in a book, maybe The World of Star Trek by David Gerrold. Anyway, there is only one access source to the bridge, by the turbolift. At least twice in the series, bad guys (and 1 good guy, Lt. Riley) have eliminated power to the turbolift and cut off life support to the bridge. Why not install one of the ladders that appear to go from deck to deck that is seen in several episodes?

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Uhura can be a force to reckon with. :techman:
 
While there is no visible evidence for such,that open space forward of the navi/helm station would have been the perfect spot for an "escape hatch". Lift a spring tension "handle" and that would retract bolts so the hatch could be lifted exposing an egress to the deck below. Logically, you would want something like that clearly marked. And, as noted above, such could have been used on a couple of occasions, but obviously was not. Still, it would have put that wasted floor space to good use. In terms of production, it would not have needed to be a real "door", just "set design" implying one. For a scene demonstrating its use, a small section of the bridge floor could have been duplicated on an elevated platform, maybe a bit of the dais supporting the navi/helm "podium" to imply the same location. That "hatch" would be a working door with a "shaft" descending a meter or so for an actor to climb up or down.
 
I think there was such a hatch in one of the unofficial bridge blueprints, but that was, of course, an afterthought.
 
There was another way off the bridge, and two pieces of canon support for it. Khan says he "jammed up your exit routes," plural, and after his initial discussion with Deela, Kirk walks off the bridge without using the turbolift. We don't see how he does it, but we see that he is not using the lift (which is "frozen" in place), and we hear his boots retreating. Additionally, Deela got onto the bridge somehow.
 
I recall in some of the pre-TMP novels there is mention of an emergency ladder to the left (from Kirk’s chair’s POV) Of The viewscreen that can be accessed via a hatch.
 
There was another way off the bridge, and two pieces of canon support for it. Khan says he "jammed up your exit routes," plural, and after his initial discussion with Deela, Kirk walks off the bridge without using the turbolift. We don't see how he does it, but we see that he is not using the lift (which is "frozen" in place), and we hear his boots retreating. Additionally, Deela got onto the bridge somehow.

That's right. "Wink of an Eye" strongly implies that Kirk went down a staircase or something. It was cheating, but the episode doesn't work without it, because the elevator would take ages.

A similar thing happened on Lost in Space, but for different reasons. During the third season, the Jupiter 2 upper deck interior had to be moved to a different sound stage, and the new arrangement did not permit them to dig up the floor. So the elevator could no longer dip down, and the ladder to the left of it no longer had an opening you could climb down into. Now, to show someone coming up from the lower deck, they implied a third way down, a supposed staircase that was just out view behind the wall with the ladder on it. It made no architectural sense, but they did what they had to do.

I recall in some of the pre-TMP novels there is mention of an emergency ladder to the left (from Kirk’s chair’s POV) Of The viewscreen that can be accessed via a hatch.

They must have taken that idea from the Franz Joseph Blueprints (1975) and Technical Manual. Another case of TOS fiction using the FJ Blueprints was in a short story called "Surprise!", in Star Trek: The New Voyages (not a bad book, btw).The story refers to a little nook in the corridor between Kirk and Spock's cabins. The nook gets closed off with a snap-in wall panel that turns it into a private space between their quarters, so they can keep a chess game going in there. And then Kirk is getting out the shower and Uhura walks in, but the point is, the writer was working directly from the published blueprints.
 
Lost in Space, how I love that show, but how can they have two decks when you can see the crew looking out of the forward screen while they are in space let alone a third deck which appeared in just one episode of season three! I think the announcer in the pilot mentioned the ship having two decks as well...
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Lost in Space, how I love that show, but how can they have two decks when you can see the crew looking out of the forward screen while they are in space let alone a third deck which appeared in just one episode of season three! I think the announcer in the pilot mentioned the ship having two decks as well...
JB
The unaired pilot “No Place to Hide” featured the single-decked Gemini XII and lacked Smith and Robot. Portions of that film were later cut into “The Reluctant Stowaway” with the re-christened two-decker Jupiter II.

With some Google searching and a careful rewatch of the first few episodes, you can see the vestiges of the ship as originally envisioned.
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Note the missing viewport.
 
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I've got my FJ manual here and it says there's a Service Corridor to the right of the Turbo Lift., also a way out into space and also a toilet.
 
The unaired pilot “No Place to Hide” featured the single-decked Gemini XII and lacked Smith and Robot. Portions of that film were later cut into “The Reluctant Stowaway” with the re-christened two-decker Jupiter II.

With some Google searching and a careful rewatch of the first few episodes, you can see the vestiges of the ship as originally envisioned.
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Note the missing viewport.

Yep, seen the unaired pilot a few times and remember the ship was called Gemini 12! Can't say I remember them saying it was a single decked ship in that though but I'll take your word for it! The unused footage was then spliced in to the first five episodes and some of the eighth I believe, if not then the plot of the two aliens at the end at least!
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I’ve never really gotten the point of these kinds of discussions, but I can sorta appreciate how the plausibility Star Trek’s creators had strived for could cause some to want to try to figure such things out (like where the toilets were or whatever). But a stupid show like Lost in Space?
 
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