A question to those that dislike this new movie

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I will never give them the honor of trekkie...DEATH TO JJ AMBRAMS

There is no "honor" to be had in identifying with a group that includes you.

 

[Irishman]

It's nice that Paramount decided to give Trek another go after Nemesis, but this new film is just another example of everything wrong with Hollywood and maybe the public that perpetuates it. Rather than moving the franchise forward we got yet another remake/prequel of an old TV show. They could have put in some serious effort and come up with a new watershed moment in Trek lore... but fuck that... let's recast Kirk and Spock. I happen to find that kind of recycling in media repulsive. I would have much rather seen Star Trek continue rather than remade in the image of the director of Mission Impossible: III.

As a "naysayer," though, I have to acknowledge that Paramount has succeeded. They are making a boatload of money, appealing to the unwashed masses and a good portion of Trek fandom willing to overlook the plethora of shortcomings.

If I had the power, I'd wipe this movie out of existence and replace it with something better... but why bother. They made two hours of excessively lit garbage, generated hype and the public is eating it up. Why fight the lowest common denominator?

Moving the franchise forward??? Do you mean forward symbolically, or chronologically?

Because if you mean the former, what in your mind would be something better?

If it's the latter, they'd lose me as a viewer. There's nothing about the "post-TNG" Trek universe that I find compelling. I hated DS9, and I found Voyager barely watchable.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

You know, DiSiLLUSiON, you seem to be pretty free with what you 'believe' other people think. Insultingly free, at times...

I try to extract meaning and intent out of the messages I read as best I can, just as anybody else does. If I state other people seem to think certain things, or have certain opinions, then those are just what I extracted from those posts. I could be wrong, but there's no way for sure until someone whom I misread corrects me, of course.

Nobody's perfect, you know.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

If I had the power, I'd wipe this movie out of existence and replace it with something better...

And this is why people have to work and earn the opportunity to make studio movies. Even the people fans think they're better than.

 

[candle_86]

You want to see skill go google Star Trek Phase II and watch that, acting is 100x better, so is the story line and it actully sticks to cannon. Its not some sick joke. Id rather watch Phase II filmed in somones garage than this movie anyday, why because I have good taste. The rest of you are sell outs.

 

[captcalhoun]

i'd rather the movie we got made more sense and wasn't so stupid. like Spock dumping Kirk on Delta Vega, Nero hanging around for 25 years doing fuck-all, Delta Vega suddenly being so close to Vulcan you can see Vulcan with the naked eye even though the Enterprise was flying at fucking warp speed for ages before it passed DV, a supernova that can wipe out all life in the galaxy, a black-hole being used a)to stop a supernova and b) to time-travel, the stupid engineering section that looks like a brewery, Amanda getting killed in a ridiculous fashion and transporters that suddenly are less sophisticated than in ENT and building the ship on the ground in Iowa.

oh, and glowing exhausts on the warp nacelles and no Andorians, Tellarites, Deltans, Caitians or otehr recognised species except Vulcans and Romulans and a possible Orion.

 

[Jax]

You lot act like ST 1-10 didn't have more plot holes than a sinking ship at times. STAR TREK needed this and for the ones who didn't like it then oh well boo hoo and time to get off board you've been replaced by new fans. Hopefully this next generation of Trek fans won't rip themselves to pieces over cannon which was observed by J.J and his crew since they created a seperate new timeline which events being changed and not a full clean reboot with no mention of what came before.

STAR TREK IS BACK AND LIVES.

 

[iguana_tonante]

You want to see skill go google Star Trek Phase II and watch that, acting is 100x better, so is the story line and it actully sticks to cannon. Its not some sick joke. Id rather watch Phase II filmed in somones garage than this movie anyday, why because I have good taste. The rest of you are sell outs.

Please, continue these all-boards rants. They are quite amusing.

 

[uniderth]

Please, continue these all-boards rants. They are quite amusing.

Is he on every forum?

 

[Mr. B]

Moving the franchise forward??? Do you mean forward symbolically, or chronologically?

If it's the latter, they'd lose me as a viewer. There's nothing about the "post-TNG" Trek universe that I find compelling. I hated DS9, and I found Voyager barely watchable.

I meant chronologically. I think they could do something new (ship, crew, whatever) and successful without disturbing what came before.

 

[M'Sharak]

You want to see skill go google Star Trek Phase II and watch that, acting is 100x better, so is the story line and it actully sticks to cannon. Its not some sick joke. Id rather watch Phase II filmed in somones garage than this movie anyday, why because I have good taste. The rest of you are sell outs.

Please, continue these all-boards rants. They are quite amusing.

Eh, I'm not so amused. Closing.

 

[JTK2099]

I think the most annoying aspect of NuTrek is this notion that it is beyond criticism. If you legitimately dislike the film then you instantly get branded as "obsessed with canon", a "nit-picker", or someone that needs to "accept it and move on." There are many sound, intelligent ways that a Star Trek can can have serious issues with this movie. There are many fans who don't care for such a radical reinterpretation of both the characters and material. I include myself in that group.

I don't wish ill will on Abrams, Orci, or Kurtzman. I will simply say that I think, for all his faults, Rick Berman did a solid job of maintaining the core ideas and presentation of Star Trek. I feel that this new team only understands it on the most superficial level.

 

[Shaper079]

In answer to the original poster, I liked the movie but I knew I would going in. It is Star Trek. Star Trek is like sex which is like pizza, when it is good it is fantastic and when it is bad... it's still pretty good.