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A Pavel Chekov?

James Wright

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When he was aboard the Starship Reliant, did Pavel Chekov state his position as being First Officer or was it Science Officer?
Do you think he would have been a good Captain, say of the Enterprise-B?

JDW
 
When he was aboard the Starship Reliant, did Pavel Chekov state his position as being First Officer or was it Science Officer?
Do you think he would have been a good Captain, say of the Enterprise-B?
He indeed says, ``Log entry by First Officer Pavel Chekov'', which is abnormally clear-cut and difficult to dispute for this sort of thing. I don't think there's anything given to suggest whether he's also Science Officer, although since we haven't really had that sort of doubling outside of Spock I'd bet against it.

I don't think we have any real basis to go on about whether he'd be a good Captain. Really, he never had the chance to show command skills in the Original Series -- you have to get Kirk, Spock, Scott, Sulu, and possibly a semi-regular like DeSalle out of the way before he can be left in charge of the bridge, and similarly any landing party you have Kirk and Spock there taking all the interesting decisions. (Chekov was given the bridge one time, in ``Journey to Babel'', but Kirk was at that moment grasping for anyone not vehemently unqualified and Chekov was probably just the first in the line of sight.)

He seems to have performed his various navigation and science officer duties well, and he seems to have been satisfactory as first officer. But really the only time we get to see Chekov taking command is in Generations, when he whips up a medical staff out of the people right around him, and even there his adventure is very subordinate to Kirk's.

Chekov seems to have done well enough there, though; apparently all the people beamed over from the Lakul survived (the dialogue is not as air-tight as I'd like about this), which considering the lack of medical staff indicates he must have organized the first aid quite well. That's a good mark in his favor.
 
I don't think there's anything given to suggest whether he's also Science Officer, although since we haven't really had that sort of doubling outside of Spock I'd bet against it.

FWIW, Chekov's collar for the Reliant assignment was sciences/services blue-grey, not command white. Earlier on, Decker in TMP had worn command colors for his stint as Kirk's XO (and yes, he did change his uniform after his demotion), and Stiles' apparent XO also wore white in ST3.

Then again, no other starship commander such as Sulu or Esteban was accompanied by a white-collar officer in the movies. So either their executives were off duty when we saw their bridges, or then it was fairly customary at that time for XOs to double in some other role and departmental color besides command.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I always assumed that the guy sitting at the science station giving the report of "craylon gas and high velocity winds" was the science officer.
 
I always though Sulu and Chekov would have made a great team on the Excelsior in TUC. Sulu in command and Chekov as the first officer.

Maybe tweak the story to bump up the Excelsior part in the story a little and I think it would have been a far better movie for the character of Chekov (who has little to do throughout).

No wonder Koenig had a cob on. :D
 
^Mr. Beach. Who was wearing the mustard color of Engineering and Helm. :p

well, now that you mention it... Actually I never paid that much attention to the uniforms since they didn't stand out as much as on TOS. Maybe I just figured mustard went better with craylon. ;)

Either way, I guess they were all out of wack on that bridge. What color was Kyle wearing at the communications station?
 
Gray, same as Uhura.

Interestingly enough, in the novel, McIntyre has Beach as the helmsman, though from the way she describes the uniforms throughout the book, it doesn't sound like she had much awareness of the final designs. This may mean Beach was the helmsman in the shooting script, but Meyer decided to shuffle people around the bridge.
 
In movies 2 thru 5 Sulu wore the mustard colored shirt while in movie 6 he wore white of command.
If Chekov were first officer wouldn't he wear white?

JDW
 
You're assuming he wasn't pulling double-duty like Spock in TOS and the later TOS films. Certainly on a smaller ship like Reliant it might be a possibility.
 
Why wouldn't he be able to pull double duty on a ship like Enterprise?
Spock was first officer & if I'm not mistaken he was still science officer & being a Captain he wore white of Command, why not wear blue of science?

JDW
 
By that logic, you'd have to wonder how many grades all those kids on Beverly Hills, 90210 had flunked, what with a bunch of 28-year-olds playing seniors in high school. :rolleyes:
 
Before an officer is promoted isn't there a test that must be passed before an officer moves up a rank, even the enlisted ranks?

JDW
 
I also agree that Chekov as Sulu's Exec on the Excelsior would have been cool. Too bad New Voyages' "World Enough And Time" did not take this approach. Chekov is a much better choice than Rand (the lady who delivered coffee to Kirk in 7 episodes of TOS.)
 
Then somebody else would have had to be placed at Navigation next to Valeris. Then we'd probably be searching for all the has-beens in TOS for a suitable replacement Navigator or try to come up with a new character for the role- probably a token 'Dead-Meat' character who gets killed by Valeris when the crew 'captures' her.
 
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