A Night in Sickbay.

[commodore64]

Is considerate also boring?

Yes, actually. The best characters are egotistical, jerks who have a strong personality: Sherlock Holmes, Dr. Who, Mr. Spock, etc.

Besides, Archer isn't typically this puffed up. He didn't like hearing he was wrong, so acted more wrong. Not very mature.

Within 24 hours, he figured out how immature he was being and straightened up his act, apologizing to everyone. I'm still not sure how one bad day manages to make Archer inconsiderate, especially after he's apologized (and humiliated for it).

 

[Mach5]

Is considerate also boring?

Yes, actually.

Uhm.... Okay...

The best characters are egotistical, jerks who have a strong personality: Sherlock Holmes, Dr. Who, Mr. Spock, etc.

There should be a law against calling Spock names...

But I do agree with you, to a certain degree. The most interesting characters tend to be egotistical shitheads, like Denny Crane and Alan Shore, like Greg House etc...

But there are also tons of intriguing, charismatic weirdos who are actually quite nice and selfless, like Gill Grissom (CSI), Leroy Gibbs (NCIS), Patrick Jane (The Mentalist), DI Frost (God, I loved David Jason in this thing) etc...

BTW, since you mentioned SH, have you seen BBC's new "Sherlock" series? Holmes is pretty cool, but Martin Freeman is the one who truly kick ass in that show, IMO.

Besides, Archer isn't typically this puffed up.

Yeah, I didn't think they got his character right in ANiS either.

 

[commodore64]

I have indeed seen the new Sherlock Holmes, which is why I mentioned him. This one is particularly egotistical. (I love him!)

Hey, Spock is probably my favorite character ... uhm, ever. And what I love about him is exactly his downfall: he's too smart for his own damned good and he knows it. For example, he always sees himself as indispensable and therefore, is a giant pain in the rear for his co-workers. And yet, he is indispensable.

I haven't seen any of the nice people you spoke of. I know I bring this up a lot, but typically, heroes all have fatal flaws (which makes them interesting). Hubris (pride) is usually the one that all have in common.

On whether they got his character right, yeah, actually, I think they did get it right. It's just Archer's most extreme version of himself. He makes mistakes and doesn't want to admit it. (Just like he doesn't want to admit he has a hold over the future or is the man other aliens want to deal with to create an alliance a la season 4.)

 

[Frenzy]

One of, if not the, worst episode from any Star Trek series ever.

 

[JiNX-01]

One of, if not the, worst episode from any Star Trek series ever.

I disagree that it's the worst. There are plenty of other episodes that are worse just for being excruciatingly boring.

I think the main problem with ANIS is that it suffered from a a split personality.
On the one hand you had a very sick puppy (animal lovers would consider that to be a bad/sad thing).

On the other hand you had silly scenes like the Great Bat Hunt, Archer getting all competitive when he and T'Pol are on the treadmills (where Jolene has the best lines in all of season 2) and the uber-embarrassing Freudian Slips re: T'Pol's lips, boobs, etc., followed by The Apology that involved Archer going native and cutting up a tree.

 

[Gaith]

One of, if not the, worst episode from any Star Trek series ever.

Why? Because it's a goofy and immature and - you betcha - fun outing from a show that, at the time, was pretty lame?

Please.

 

[Mach5]

Please.

Respecting other people's opinions... Yeah, doing it sooo right, bro!

 

[Gaith]

It was a dumb opinion.

 

[bluedana]

Hi, before this gets out of hand, let me just remind folks that everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, and it doesn't help the discussion to characterize an opinion. I'm pretty sure the comment wasn't meant to be taken too seriously (the smiley is a clue), but let's be careful, okay? Thanks!

 

[Gaith]

Just got this ep's disc out from the library. I only watched the first and second seasons upon their first airings, so I had vague recollections of this as well as Mauraders, The Seventh and The Communicator.

So I watched ANIS, and found it just as enjoyably goofy as I did the first time around, almost a decade ago. It's fun, light and charming - and, to quote Michelle Erica Green:

When he hesitantly brings up the fact that his tension may be exacerbated by the fact that she's a woman, she runs off at the mouth for an incredibly long time about what a good thing it is that they're not in any position to get down and boogie because if they were in a position to get down and boogie, just think how tense they would be trying not to think about getting down and boogie-ing. She's slightly more dignified about it than this paraphrase, but on a Vulcan scale, it's somewhere on par with Spock in "Amok Time" yelling, "JIM!!!"

And, as an Archer-Polly fan, I've got to enjoy that, and I did.


Here's the thing, though: it's the only ep from the disc I'm going to watch, because I recall the others as being boring as heck.


So yeah, another up vote for ANIS here. It might be silly and juvenile, but it's at least got a sense of fun about it.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Just got this ep's disc out from the library. I only watched the first and second seasons upon their first airings, so I had vague recollections of this as well as Mauraders, The Seventh and The Communicator.
Here's the thing, though: it's the only ep from the disc I'm going to watch, because I recall the others as being boring as heck.

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So yeah, another up vote for ANIS here. It might be silly and juvenile, but it's at least got a sense of fun about it.

I really like The Seventh. It gives good T'Pol. Also makes one of those touching Trek attempts at a gritty alien setting. And Menos is a great untold story, a Vulcan the High Command would like to keep squashed under the carpet.

 

[Mach5]

You dog needed to poop?

No, my gazelle needed to give birth.

 

[Gaith]

I really like The Seventh. It gives good T'Pol. Also makes one of those touching Trek attempts at a gritty alien setting. And Menos is a great untold story, a Vulcan the High Command would like to keep squashed under the carpet.

Hurm. Ms. Green did give it a quite positive review... Maybe someday... we shall see...