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A Journey

Uh, Tomalak? I'm a girl. :p (You referred to me as a "he" in your post)

Anyway, watched some more last night.

Home Soil - Still a great episode! It was nice seeing how concerned Geordi was over Data's safety in the drilling room. Also, the discussion about whether that speck was alive reminded me ALOT of what we learned in my Biology class earlier this year about the necessary requirements for organic life.

Coming of Age - There's really not alot going on here... though I did like how each of the crew subtly told off that inspection dude during their interviews.

Heart of Glory - This was pretty good. I noticed that they cut out some parts of Geordi's VISOR scenes when they showed this on Spike, so I didn't get to see how Data looked to Geordi till now. The dialogue for that was pretty awesome.

Picard: There's an aura around Data...
Geordi: Yes, of course. He's an android.
Picard: You say that as though we all see it.
Geordi: Don't you?

Also liked the Klingon Death Ritual. Very symbolic.
 
Hey all,

I've been preparing for a Midterm all week so I haven't been able to watch more TNG. I will finish Season 1 and start Season 2 this weekend.
 
I just finished Season 2. I'll have comments for the episodes of the season, but I'm waiting for somebody who's watched them more recently to get the ball rolling on those.
 
I'll be getting into the 2nd season this weekend. I've already watched the first one, The Child or whatever. Yech.
 
Tonight's episode for me was "The Loss" I'd forgot how much I hate that episode! Troi whining, "Whaa whaaa I lost my senses!!!" Ugh...
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Just finished Disc 7 and the first season:

Conspiracy

I still love this episode after all these years. It was a nice conclusion to a little arc that should have continued but, unfortuantely, didn't. Loved seeing Quinn again and Remmik as the mother queen was great. Yeah the ending was gross, but it was so awesomely cool. Remmik's head being blown off is one of my favorite moments in all of TNG.

The Neutral Zone

I don't like this episode very much. I thought it was pretty much 2 episodes in one, and the human plot could have been its own story. This episode is supposed to introduce the Romulans, but we don't see them until the end and even that is just a "We're Back" type thing. There could have been so much more.

As for the three cryogenics, I actually liked seeing them but they should have been an entirely different episode. Watching them try to live in the 24th century was interesting, but I couldn't help but think how much of jerks the crew was to them. People criticize TNG for being too preachy, hypocritical, PC, but they don't really provide any clear cut examples. I think this is an episode that falls under their arguments very well, unfortunately, and it's the season 1 finale. Not a good way to end the season by making the characters act like jerks to other humans who are most definitely out of time. I know they were in a situation, but that is why I think this show was 2 episodes in 1 and that was a hindrance.

On to season 2 this weekend.
 
The Arsenal of Freedom - Another one of my favorites, but with no particular standout moments (apart from Data jumping into the hole and landing gracefully, and Riker's comments about the "Lollipop.")

Symbiosis - I know most people hate it for the cheesy anti-drug talk, but I didn't mind that part at all. And I didn't catch the part where Tasha apparently waves goodbye to the fans. I guess I forgot to watch for it, but I've seen a screenshot before.

Skin of Evil - Meh. Tasha dies. I kinda liked her, but I've seen so much of the other seasons that she's not that big of a deal to me. Though I did like how Data stayed behind after everyone else had left her funeral.

We'll Always Have Paris - The time scenes are awesome, considering the uber confusion that arises amongst the crew when they see duplicates of themselves. And the whole part with Data in the lab was awesome. Something I don't get though... I thought Data had already reached the place where he was supposed to dump the antimatter before the disruption occured, so how come the middle Data was the one in the "correct" timeline?
 
^I thought it had something to do with the past present and future aspect. Each three Datas represented a point in time, so the far Data was the past, middle Data was the present, and the Data near the machine was the future. Time was already fractured, so they needed the present Data to fix it all. I know I'm saying a lot of confusing stuff, but Time Paradoxes tend to be that way. ;)
 
Conspiracy - This has never been a favorite of mine, though I'll admit I liked the joke scene at the beginning.

The Neutral Zone - I liked the idea of the frozen people, though I didn't like that bossy guy too much.

May or may not have time to start season 2 tonight (I have to get up ridiculously early tomorrow.)
 
And Season Two Begins. :)

The Child – D+

Terrific idea, poor execution. If this had happened to any other female crew member that could actually act, this could have been a B or better episode. As it is, well, another episode the less said the better.


Where Silence has Lease – C+

I liked this episode. The whole idea of being enveloped in the void was good. I also liked the fact the Romulan ship obviously committed suicide. That added a sense of foreboding to the whole thing. Being tested with a way out, and Picard not wanting to leave anyone behind, seemed a little tired to me, but still this is a good episode.

Elementary Dear Data – B

This is an especially well done episode, and Moriarty is a great character. Despite the fact that TNG went a little overboard with holodeck stories, this stands up as a classic and very well worth watching again. Moriarty’s character progression through the episode and the ending where he relented was just excellently done.

The Outrageous Okona – C+

Despite the negativity I’ve read about this episode, I enjoyed it. As with what we sexually refer to as “eye candy”, I think this episode is a bit of “TNG candy”. It was fun, nothing significant, not easily forgettable, but not exactly something you would want to watch again and again. Okona was a cool character, I liked him.

Did you know (according to Wikipedia) that the guy that played Okona was second in line after Frakes to play the Riker role?

Loud as a Whisper – F-

This is the first episode in my journey through TNG that I simply could not bear to watch all the way through. Riva was a good idea on paper, but the execution of this episode is just horrible. Riva looks like a reject from a 70s action TV show. I know that the actor, Howie Seago, is deaf in real life and has done some wonderful work, but in this case, his character was horrible and embarrassing to watch.

When you are watching a TV show all by your lonesome and feel the need to cover your cat’s eyes from the horrible spectacle on the TV, you know you are watching something that should never seen by the eyes of man.
 
Spider said:
If this had happened to any other female crew member that could actually act, this could have been a B or better episode.

Like who, exactly? ;)

This is partly a joke about Sirtis and Gates, but mainly that Sirtis was actually the only female regular during the second season.

If I'm going to count the two recurring guest stars, Whoopi Goldberg and Diana Muldaur, then Muldaur in my view comes out on top as the best actress of the three.

I'm surprised about all the absolute hatred "Loud as a Whisper" gets. I found it mildly interesting, and not half as awful as "Haven" or "When the Bough Breaks".
 
^^ It's better than Haven, but that's about it IMO.

I'd have to agree with Spider, I really don't like the episode, mainly due to many of the reasons that he gave.
 
In the end, it all just boils down to personal taste I guess. Personally, I don't understand the hatred for Rascals and Masks, two episodes I just love. :lol:
 
Spider said:
Where Silence has Lease – C+

I liked this episode. The whole idea of being enveloped in the void was good. I also liked the fact the Romulan ship obviously committed suicide. That added a sense of foreboding to the whole thing. Being tested with a way out, and Picard not wanting to leave anyone behind, seemed a little tired to me, but still this is a good episode.
Um .. huh. It'd never occurred to me the Romulan ship might have been an actual Romulan ship looking for suicide. I'd assumed it was like the Yamato, a duplicate made for testing the Enterprise's reactions.
 
^As had I, and I still do.

Spider said:
If this had happened to any other female crew member that could actually act, this could have been a B or better episode.
He's not Herbert--We reach!

It's noteworthy that this script had originally been written for ST Phase II with Ilia as the impregnated woman...and Troi was a reconception of Ilia...so they stuck with that.

I think it's an OK episode, but just OK. The whole uber-growing child thing was possibly enough of a hook to just focus on that without the B-plot jeopardy cutting his existence short. He'd have grown up soon enough, and it strains my credulity that the Enterprise couldn't do a better job of containing bugs. Put them on a shuttle or something.

My favorite part of this episode is the opening sequence. I didn't see this one when it originally aired, but I got the intent when I did see it. After a very long hiatus imposed by the writer's strike, and against expectations from when the show started, they were back for a second season and indulged in celebrating the moment.

I had some pretty harsh words for Pulaski in the reaction thread for MEG's recent review of this episode, but having recently finished all of Season Two, I have to soften my criticism a bit. She started out as a very ill-conceived attempt at cloning McCoy, but by the middle of the season, they had all but dropped those elements of the character, especially her pronounced bigotry against Data from the early episodes. It's interestingly-tight continuity for this sort of show that when they reveal that she avoids the transporter several episodes later, it's true that she hasn't used it since coming aboard. In this episode she takes a shuttle, and in "The Schzoid Man" she comes up with a justifiable excuse to send Dr. Selar on an away team in her place. (They created a guest character just to set up her transporter-phobia!)

Where Silence has Lease
As I covered recently in the MEG review thread, I've always liked this one's creepy atmosphere, but the writing and/or directing always seemed "off" somehow. Worf's written as Wolverine, the camera lingers on reaction shots of Data seemingly emoting for nobody else's benefit, and Pulaski's bigotry against Data is far more blatant than in other episodes. In fact, I only describe it as bigotry because of her behavior in this episode--take away the scenes in which she refers to him as "it" like he's not there, and all of her other scenes with Data might come off as relatively good-natured honest skepticism.

The stand-out moment in this episode of a good sort is Picard's vocalization of his beliefs in his quarters. IMO, it's actually ruined when we learn that Data and Troi aren't really there. However, the set-up for this scene is one of those moments that made Picard seem weak in the first couple of seasons. Here he's ordered 1000 people under his command to die, and how does the captain choose to spend his last 20 minutes? He goes back to his quarters to kick back to some classical music and a good book. Riker, by contrast, apparently stays on the bridge, setting an example. One has to wonder how Picard ever recovered in Worf's eyes, considering the value that Klingons put on dying at their posts.

And why does everyone react like it's a revelation when Pulaski compares what they're going through to a lab experiment...when Geordi had pretty much made the point earlier when he made his joke about the mouse wanting out of the trap?

Elementary Dear Data
A fine, entertaining episode. Was Moriarty really sentient, or just the computer doing a damn good imitation by allowing the character to know what he needed to know and react in-character? Having seen this one when it originally aired, this one probably struck me in much the same way as "The Big Goodbye" had already struck others.

The Outrageous Okona
The guy who used to write episode reviews for Cinefantastique described this one as a leftover story from Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, and that always stuck with me. It's charming but pretty damn hokey. The guest actors playing the warring families were pretty bad, especially the girl, who came off like she was performing in the high school play. I give Campbell more credit, because I know what he's capable of from his starring role on three seasons of Once & Again opposite the Emmy-winning Sela Ward. So he was the runner-up for Riker who was alluded to in the recent Entertainment Weekly TNG insert as having frozen up at his auditions? Interesting.... (Or was it Jeffrey Combs, who was also reportedly a runner-up for the part?)

Guinan's inability to set an example for Data by telling a funny joke herself has been thoroughly covered in this forum recently. And why is it that a poorly-worded command can cause the Holodeck to create an arguably-sentient being in one episode, but it can't create an audience that knows what to laugh at the next?

Loud as a Whisper
I agree with a lot of MEG's points in her recent review of this one. It was a decent concept, but very clumsy in its execution. And there's a big discrepency between Riva's much-hyped legendary status and the fact that nobody had any idea that he was deaf-mute and used a chorus. In any other episode, at least Data would have had such facts on hand. How could somebody who was played up as being so well-known and influential keep such a distinguishing characteristic a highly-classified secret?

When you are watching a TV show all by your lonesome and feel the need to cover your cat’s eyes from the horrible spectacle on the TV, you know you are watching something that should never seen by the eyes of man.
:lol: Wow, you really didn't like this episode, did you?

I think that this is the "clunky part" of Season Two...after this, it actually gets pretty good for the most part...a marked improvement over Season One, showing that the show was coming together.
 
The Old Mixer said:
:lol: Wow, you really didn't like this episode, did you?

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I haven’t rewatched season one or two in many years. Frankly, I thought season one would suck harder than a neutron star. But it didn’t. There was some good stuff in season one and I was able to watch all the way through all the episodes. Then I came up against “Loud as a Whisper”. It was so horrible, so indescribable, that I couldn’t help myself be that negative. :lol:
 
^Taste is subjective. Each of us has our own "Spock's Brain". Heck, I enjoy "The Way to Eden", while many would gouge their eyeballs out rather than watch it.
 
^
Yes. My absolute lowest utterly-dispacable barometer of unwatchability is creeping up on you, Spider. Stern words will be had if anyone admits they like "Up the Long Ladder" even a little. :p
 
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