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A horror story, a dog and me.

Miss Chicken

Little three legged cat with attitude
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I am currently reading a horror story. I am about 2/3 through the novel and there are currently at least 6 people and one old sheepdog alive on an island. They are surrounded by dozens of monsters. The human characters who are still alive all seem to be nice people. How come the character I am most concerned about is the dog?

I mentioned this to my son and he told me that the scene that upset him most in Willard was the one in which the cat was killed.

Have you ever felt the same way watching a movie, reading a book or in real life?
 
Independence Day. Didn't care for most of the people who survived, but when that dog jumped to safety, me and most of the theatre cheered.
 
I feel the same way.

I think it has something to do with us being desensitized to humans being killed.

But I must note, I feel the same way about children being killed too. I think it has something to do with the animals and children, they are innocent and look to us for protection. Makes it all sadder when they get killed on screen.
 
I feel the same way.

I think it has something to do with us being desensitized to humans being killed.

But I must note, I feel the same way about children being killed too. I think it has something to do with the animals and children, they are innocent and look to us for protection. Makes it all sadder when they get killed on screen.
I don't think it has to do with being desensitized to humans being killed. Animals and children are often viewed as innocents in our society and I don't think this is a new development. Which is why they also make good sources unexpected evil. As the Bad Seed and Cujo show us.
 
I seem to be a rare exception to this (at least, I get the impression it's rare not to feel attached to the dog, hence of course why films use animals to tug on the emotions of the audience). Attempts to evoke concern for them fall somewhat flat for me. If a film tries to make me care about a dog or a horse, say, I simply can't; unless it's integral to the story. If the film were about a person's relationship with a dog or a horse, that's different. I'm a rather sentimental person, after all, and I can easily accept other people's depth of feeling for animals. But when a film includes a scene like the one in Independence Day sojourner mentions, I'm a little confused and perhaps a bit resentful when it's implied I should value a dog as much as (even more than?) other humans.

To be honest, though, something similar actually applies to humans themselves in disaster movies, etc. To invest in a character or a small group of characters is easy if they have compelling personal problems to work through, but when their main problem is "the asteroid", how are they particularly worthy of my attention? More than anyone else, I mean. Everyone has that problem. :lol: I can never wrap my brain around why I'm supposed to care for the protagonists specifically. What about the three hundred people we just saw killed by the tsunami? The protagonist is no less worthy, of course, but no more so either. Throw in a dog and it becomes a strange exercise in reflection on human group dynamics and my own biases. :lol:

On the other hand, in terms of books like the one Miss Chicken is reading, I wonder if it might have something to do with a non-sapient animal being a blank slate onto which our general sense of concern, stemming from the situation the characters are in, can be projected. After all, the human characters, likeable or not, are subject to our understanding that relating to other people is a complex and somewhat contradictory exercise. There's always some degree of baggage affecting how we relate to someone, and perhaps the "purest" appreciation of the emotions the book evokes results when we can disregard that basic empathy and just treat the character as an object - an object of concern.

I certainly remember a book I once read about a group of people on a quest or journey, and the one "character" I hoped would survive to the end was their moody old donkey. Though maybe that's because I wasn't too invested in the characters, but the plot was good.
 
I would probably laugh in shock if the dog got killed in a disaster movie. Not because I have anything against dogs, but because I have something against cheap movie clichés that pander to the audience, so killing the dog when you expect it to jump to safety would be original and unexpected.

Make me care for the potential loss of the characters or even the dog by developing them as someone/something important to the audience throughout the film; don't just go the quick and easy route by having a dog pull off some amazing trick to escape a firestorm or lava at the last second.

I cared about Yeller and Hooch and the old tiger in We Bought a Zoo. I didn't care about the Russian girl's rat dog doing a highwire act to cross to safety on the ark in 2012 (right before they ended up drowning the poor girl without anyone giving her a second thought).

One of the few good things about the end of Jurassic Park: The Lost World was the T-Rex chowing down on that dog. I couldn't believe Spielberg actually did it. He seemed to have such an aversion to showing any of the dinosaurs getting killed by humans (except one raptor killed by gymnastics, but that's okay because they're evil intelligent animals, I guess) even though there was 150 guys with assault rifles and aim worse than Stormtroopers being chased by giant ravenous dinosaurs. I thought that illogical animal safety bubble might extend to the cute doggie too.
 
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One of the few good things about the end of Jurassic Park: The Lost World was the T-Rex chowing down on that dog. I couldn't believe Spielberg actually did it. He seemed to have such an aversion to showing any of the dinosaurs getting killed by humans (except one raptor killed by gymnastics, but that's okay because they're evil intelligent animals, I guess) even though there was 150 guys with assault rifles and aim worse than Stormtroopers being chased by giant ravenous dinosaurs. I thought that illogical animal safety bubble might extend to the cute doggie too.
But what about the goat in Jurassic Park? Nobody cares about the goat. :(
 
One of the few good things about the end of Jurassic Park: The Lost World was the T-Rex chowing down on that dog. I couldn't believe Spielberg actually did it. He seemed to have such an aversion to showing any of the dinosaurs getting killed by humans (except one raptor killed by gymnastics, but that's okay because they're evil intelligent animals, I guess) even though there was 150 guys with assault rifles and aim worse than Stormtroopers being chased by giant ravenous dinosaurs. I thought that illogical animal safety bubble might extend to the cute doggie too.
But what about the goat in Jurassic Park? Nobody cares about the goat. :(

Raptor Jesus cares about saving goats... for supper.

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The dog survived in the story I was reading, at least I think it did. It left the island on a small boat accompanying a man who was going for help. The monsters seem to be able to swim I hope that the dog and man got to the mainland.

The small boat had arrived with a single person meaning that 6 people were still on the island after the dog and one man left. 4 of these people survived. I think that about 15 people died altogether. The monsters killed quite a few sheep.

There was a cat but it was only briefly mentioned early on in the story. I assumed it had enough sense to find somewhere safe to hide.
 
But I have given away so many spoilers.

Its Island Life by William Meikle. It cost me $2.99 as a Kindle download. Its OK, I will give it a 3.5/5.

I plan to read a couple more of his novels as the Kindle versions are cheap.
 
I know how you feel Miss Chicken. It reminds me of when my partner and I are watching the news and we hear about someone or other getting murdered or dying in a car crash and the reaction is sort of "sigh, how terrible" feeling. But when a story comes on about a cat that had been lit on fire and died, I feel sickened, enraged, and start crying.

I think it is more upsetting because they are so innocent and unless it was a rabid animal trying to attack someone, they clearly did not deserve such torture. Whereas humans are so much more complex, and the lines between good and evil can be blurred, so that you don't really know how to feel about certain tragic situations unless you were particularly close to the people involved.
 
I an genuinely more upset at an animal's death in some movies because the writing and acting is often so badly done that I don't believe that the human characters are real. This often happens in horror films, because I often find them to be complete crap.

I remember watching one particularly bad horror film with hubby and what really upset me was when a horse was killed. I felt that the poor animal was the only sympathetic victim in the whole piece.
 
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