I’m going to go out on a limb and say that you know what I meant.
A few observations about Romulans from 'Balance of Terror' and 'The Enterprise Incident'
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say that you know what I meant.
Maybe you can: my Youtube-fu seems to be failing me. I'm also getting depressed by how many Into Darkness clips come up when I search Wrath of Khan deleted scenes...
He was the Federation spy helping with the ridiculous plan to succeed.
Yes the only reasonable explanation.
And down with the Romulan ridges. They are ridiculous considering they are supposed to be the same race as the Vulcans. Perhaps there's some ridged Vulcans living up Vulcan "North".
To get back to the topic of haircuts - could it be that it was just Vulcans who served in Starfleet who had the bowl cuts? OK I'm channeling some Vulcans from Ent. I think they had bowl cuts too or did they? As for Surak - he just came out of Spock's imagination - so that could explain the haircut.
You're suffering a clinical mental health disorder from film clips? I would recommend seeking a therapist.
Lots of planets have a north...
It was a joke: sub, submarine.
So looking at my friends on Facebook...
Several of them have distinct facial hair. Two of them have skin color vastly darker than mine. Facial features and body types are all unique. And this one girl who hails from Japan, her eyes are nothing like mine nor is her face.
Now why would Earth with it's 10,000 races and cultures be unique? Why would there be only one kind of Vulcan? Or one kind of Romulan?
Especially considering how many unique Klingons we see...
Several of them have distinct facial hair. Two of them have skin color vastly darker than mine. Facial features and body types are all unique. And this one girl who hails from Japan, her eyes are nothing like mine nor is her face.
Now why would Earth with it's 10,000 races and cultures be unique? Why would there be only one kind of Vulcan? Or one kind of Romulan?
Especially considering how many unique Klingons we see...
I recall in BoT that the Romulans are shown as being clever... and in TEI that Spock claims, nonplussed and drily, that the Romulan commander is being clever - a trait "unworthy of a Romulan" (but followed up by the Romulan commander later stating the Romulans are warriors and savage, and doing all but jiggledancing to Nancy Sinatra songs in the process but either way backs up Spock's claim.) This must be a lie, or a lie within a lie since he was working for the Federation the entire time and every other story in TOS and TNG TV shows the Romulans as being mischievous and chess players and all that. But, again, that cannot be the case because the Romulan Commander admits it and there is nothing refuted. Not even a duet with Lee Hazelwood about Sand, and we all know sand gets everywhere! (But they do drink Summer Wine, of course...)
Spock never said that Romulans were not clever, he said that tbeing clever was "unworthy of a Romaulan". Spock could think that been clever was disgraceful and unworthy of a Romulan and also belive that most Romulans were constantly being clever. There is no contradiction.
In this case Spock was repeating the "unworthy of" phrasing used by the Romulan commander, as they bandied words with the fate of KIrk, Spock, and the Enterprise crew hangng in the balance. So possibly Spock was claiming that one particular type of cleverness - instead of intelligent behavior in general - was unworthy of a Romulan. Or at least Spock claimed her cleverness in this partiuclar situation was as much unworthy as the Romulan Commander claimed subterfuge was for a Vulcan.
Possibly Romulan ethics consider it wrong to try to trick people in one's power to admit to wrongdoing and so get punished.
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I find it funny that first we know, that Spock is not 100% Vulcan and spent most of his adult life in Starfleet and not on Vulcan, so things generally about Vulcans may not apply to Spock. Second, when asked if Vulcans are incapable of lying, whether it is a well-know saying or a myth, deceptive Spock says it is no myth...so, he is only confirming it as just a well-known saying. It being a fact or not is not being addressed, and we know Vulcans do lie and do "exaggerate", so in effect, Spock lies about whether Vulcans are incapable of lying.
I've had this thought but decided there must have been a swarm of Federation spies on board for that to work.
Oh, there's so much the sequel series had no idea how to handle.
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/romulan_evolution.htm
Shows how they changed in pictures.
Shows how they changed in pictures.
I am so glad flat-foreheaded Romulans have returned in Picard.
