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A Decidedly New Type of "Meat"

CuttingEdge100

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Only the Japanese could come up with this: It's called the "poop burger"

Japanese scientists have actually discovered a way to create edible steaks from human feces.

Mitsuyuki Ikeda, a researcher from the Okayama Laboratory, has developed steaks based on proteins from human excrement. Tokyo Sewage approached the scientist because of an overabundance of sewage mud. They asked him to explore the possible uses of the sewage and Ikeda found that the mud contained a great deal of protein because of all the bacteria.

The researchers then extracted those proteins, combined them with a reaction enhancer and put it in an exploder which created the artificial steak. The “meat” is 63% proteins, 25% carbohydrates, 3% lipids and 9% minerals. The researchers color the poop meat red with food coloring and enhance the flavor with soy protein. Initial tests have people saying it even tastes like beef.

Inhabitat notes that “the meatpacking industry causes 18 percent of our greenhouse gas emissions, mostly due to the release of methane from animals.” Livestock also consume huge amounts of resources and space in efforts to feed ourselves as well as the controversy over cruelty to animals. Ikeda’s recycled poop burger would reduce waste and emissions, not to mention obliterating Dante’s circle for gluttons.

The scientists hope to price it the same as actual meat, but at the moment the excrement steaks are ten to twenty times the price they should be thanks to the cost of research. Professor Ikeda understands the psychological barriers that need to be surmounted knowing that your food is made from human feces. They hope that once the research is complete, people will be able to overlook that ugly detail in favor of perks like environmental responsibility, cost and the fact that the meat will have fewer calories.

Waste not; want not.

Sounds great, except for certain food-borne illnesses that could potentially escape the sterilization practices (i.e. prion diseases) which would rapidly lead to a rapid spread of disease.

What do you guys think?
 
No way. :barf:

Even if the shit odor and taste could be eliminated, which I highly doubt, no one would ever buy this. And it's unsafe as all hell.
 
Mr. Laser Beam


Okay, firstly that is easily my favorite smiley

Even if the shit odor and taste could be eliminated, which I highly doubt, no one would ever buy this. And it's unsafe as all hell.

Well, firstly if that stuff ever was made cheap enough to compete with meat prices (in any other location other than Japan) it would not be called "Poop-Burger Meat"; it would be given a much more palatable name, and all it's virtues would be trumpeted.

Then there's the issue of prion diseases again. They are resistant to most sterilization processes (and prions are either absorbed through the tonsils, or through the intestines; this would of course mean that prions can come out in feces)
 
You obviously didn't read the article since nothing you said here is accurate.

Of course I read the article, the OP quoted it!

How was I inaccurate, BTW?

First, the smell you're worried about comes from bacteria, which are all killed as part of the process. The meat itself is just protein and lipids--same as you'd find in any other meat. You also have no evidence that any of this is unsafe, while the scientists working on this have clearly gone to great pains to make a safe process. So, unless you have evidence to the contrary, you should probably not make claims with no factual basis.
 
^^ Exactly. Extracting edible protein from fecal matter is no different than recycling any other waste product. After all, doesn’t EVERYTHING ultimately get recycled?

(Shouldn’t this thread be consolidated with the earlier one on the same topic in Misc.?)
 
^^ Exactly. Extracting edible protein from fecal matter is no different than recycling any other waste product. After all, doesn’t EVERYTHING ultimately get recycled?

(Shouldn’t this thread be consolidated with the earlier one on the same topic in Misc.?)

Well, it would be nice if we could have a more technical/philosophical discussion here, rather than the thread full of mostly gut reactions in Misc.

The psychological factor is obviously a very strong element here, but if this process becomes price competitive with raising and slaughtering cattle, it would be a very good thing. The more we can reuse and recycle our waste, the better it is for the planet and for the long-term survival of the human race.

Guess what? All the water you drink was most likely part of sewage at one point, too. You know where treated sewage goes? Back into rivers and thus the water table. You're drinking what was once someone's urine. Somehow, we all manage to stay hydrated despite the gross-out factor.
 
^ That is a lot different from going into your bathroom, taking one humongous dump, and slathering the result on a bun. :p
 
^ So you would have no problem with going into your bathroom, taking one humongous dump, and slathering the result on a bun? That's basically what this is, isn't it?

No, that isn't what this is, and now I'm done discussing it with you because you clearly haven't read the article. If you did, you have failed to understand even the tiniest bit about how the process works. By all means, take your uninformed dismissals to the Misc. thread. Some of us might like to actually discuss the practical benefits, risks, and challenges involved here.
 
^^ Exactly. Extracting edible protein from fecal matter is no different than recycling any other waste product. After all, doesn’t EVERYTHING ultimately get recycled?

Underlined emphasis mine.

Given that there are different types of natural waste out there, why not focus on that rather than feces? There's a massive mental block about eating human waste that no amount of marketing or PR will ever be able to overcome.
 
There's a massive mental block about eating human waste that no amount of marketing or PR will ever be able to overcome.

Quite.

The customer will of course have to be informed ahead of time as to where this meat came from. (Otherwise, the lawsuits would be off the chart.) Given this, that mental block you spoke of will make it not worth the while to do this.

I fell for it, didn't I?
 
There's a massive mental block about eating human waste that no amount of marketing or PR will ever be able to overcome.

^Taco Bell's hardly had a problem tho...
 
There's a massive mental block about eating human waste that no amount of marketing or PR will ever be able to overcome.

Quite.

The customer will of course have to be informed ahead of time as to where this meat came from. (Otherwise, the lawsuits would be off the chart.) Given this, that mental block you spoke of will make it not worth the while to do this.

I fell for it, didn't I?

Most people probably don't realize their drinking water is reclamated sewage (urine, feces, pulped and rotted vegetation, chemicals), with the "solids" removed and the water treated.

Most people don't realize how separated they are from the source of their food. Where do you get your food? Most people get theirs at grocery stores and farmer's markets, but that food has been sterilized, processed and presented to you as an appealing choice. Have you ever been inside a meat processing plant? There are people who, once they've seen the process by which they get their chicken or beef, become vegetarian, because they didn't realize how it was done. Yet before that, they happily chowed down on their quarter pounders and chicken strips. People think they know how their dinner reaches their plate. It doesn't mean they actually do know, or realize just what is involved in getting it there.

Now, even with that in mind, have you ever heard of the Food Defect Action Level used by the FDA? I suggest you check it out and see what you may be eating, and why it's perfectly allowable. I warn you, if you plan on eating soon, you may want to wait to read it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_Defect_Action_Levels
 
It actually isn't and they have been cases of law where Taco Bell went above and beyond reason to hide the fact that their meat isn't meat.

Just one example for now. The meat Taco Bell uses contains gluten. As such anyone with an alergy to bread can't eat the meat. Fast forward in our story. A person went to Taco Bell asked the clerk if their meat contained bread, the clerk said no. That person asked the manager, the manager said no. That person ate only the meat and had a massive alergic reaction to the meat.

Fast Forward some more, the very first non family visitor he had in the hospital was a lawyer for Taco Bell asking how many zeros it would take for this to go away.

True story, I can't link it but it happened and I was there to see it all unfold.
 
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