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A cool moment in "Where No Man..."

It's a series of tubes.

That's not practical. The tubes would have to be enormous,they'd end up almost doubling the volume of the ship!!!

I don't understand.

Did you take a look at the turbolift's car? It's enormous. The tubes would have to be at least that big. Do you know anything about basic geometry? If you want to run a network of tubes of this caliber throughout the ship, it's going to take more space than the corridor themselves.
 
The TOS turbolift cars are approximately 7' in diameter. The TOS corridors are 8' wide so I don't see why horizontal turboshafts need be any wider.

As for how much room they take up in relation to the overall volume of the ship, that would depend on how extensive you want that turboshaft network to be, beyond (obviously) having a stop on every deck. For a truly expansive example, Franz Joseph's designs are a pretty good example. However, the Enterprise could easily get away with something a good deal simpler.

Out of interest, what system did you envisage as an alternative?
 
The problem with turbolifts moving horizontally is that it makes a nightmare of your deck plans. Instead of walking three steps to the next room, you have to walk the long way around a horizontal shaft that blocks everything.

And going horizontally in a turbocar isn't all that preferable to walking unless you're on crutches or something. It was just a completely impractical idea they put in to make the ship seem more interesting.
 
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The problem with turbolifts moving horizontally is that it makes a nightmare of your deck plans.
Well, really only on one deck (per FJ's plans).

And going horizontally in a turbocar isn't all that preferable to walking unless you're on crutches or something.
I figure that in addition to passagers, the turbo lift is also the ship's delivery trucks. Moving equipment through the ship, whatever will fit inside.

:)
 
Horizontal tubes (at least least on some decks) would mean that the on/off boarding stops need not all be cluttered together - this has various safety advantages not to mention that it avoids congestion at busy times.
Also, a person travelling from Deck 6 to Deck 4 wouldn't need to tie up the main shaft (leading to the Bridge) but could just hop in the lift on the starboard side. Such a lift would not be the fastest route to the bridge however (although it would be connected to that shaft eventually) so if the crewman wanted to head there he would instead walk down a couple of corridors to the main turbocar stop - which is what we see our main characters do a lot of the time anyway.
 
The TOS turbolift cars are approximately 7' in diameter. The TOS corridors are 8' wide so I don't see why horizontal turboshafts need be any wider.

As for how much room they take up in relation to the overall volume of the ship, that would depend on how extensive you want that turboshaft network to be, beyond (obviously) having a stop on every deck. For a truly expansive example, Franz Joseph's designs are a pretty good example. However, the Enterprise could easily get away with something a good deal simpler.

Out of interest, what system did you envisage as an alternative?
They could do like Archer did a century before, beam inside the ship. Or did they lose that technology?
 
In recent years, I've noticed this cool, little moment in the 2nd pilot.

The department heads are assembled on the bridge and Scotty says something to the effect of an enthusiastic, "Engineering section ready as always."

To which Kirk just laughs.

And I thought to myself, "BOOM! We're not even halfway into the episode and already Kirk and Scotty have the foundation of their relationship established."

It's a nice moment, and one which is actually echoed (whether on purpose or otherwise) in their very last scene together in Generations:

KIRK: "Scotty, keep things together until I get back."

SCOTTY: "I always do!"

(Kirk smiles as he steps into the turbolift.)

Holy shit, you're right.

And this time Kirk leaves the bridge...

DAMN IT.
 
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