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A Christmas Carol discussion and grading thread

How do you rate A Christmas Carol?


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^ No, Amy isn't River.

To add: I cheered when I saw Arthur's name in the credits. :) My son thought I was weird.

Time will tell.

in the confidential there was some stage audience Christmas thing and they introduced Arthur first, and there was applause and... It's so cute how he must think that he is big people. After the Doctor takes his woman, he is going to make such a great villain. Props to Arthur, and I do love Rory, but the lad is doomed.

Q How do you turn a pond into a river?

A Wait for the oncoming storm to flood it.

THEY BOTH... UM? SHE BOTHS HATE THE FEZ!!!

Shinzon, who's the girl in your avatar?
 
Amy being River was suggested back in our discussion of the fifth series...it's not a theory that I subscribe to and quite frankly I think we've been overthinking who River Song is. The Moff loves to toss in twists and things yes but also I wouldn't be shocked if it was something simple in the end when we do find out about her. I'm not discounting the theory either, just saying that personally I do not believe. I stated this a while ago but I feel like Rory has evolved a great deal since we first encountered him in "The Eleventh Hour". At first he seemed like he was going to be just another Mickey but he's turned out to be far more than that.
 
Just watched my DVR of the episode tonight. I loved it. Completely blew me away.

No one does time travel like Steven Moffat. He manages to wring more out of the concept in one hour than many writer/producers can present in a full 24 hour television season.

The scene where the Doctor shows Sardick's younger self what he becomes in the his future and have the kid mistake him for "Dad", was incredibly powerful. Sardick doesn't hit the kid at the beginning of the episode because he "remembers" this from his childhood, right?

Anyway, great episode. This one joins "The Girl in the Fireplace" and "Blink", as episodes I'de be most to show non-Who fans as examples of what the show is about.
 
^ No, Amy isn't River.

To add: I cheered when I saw Arthur's name in the credits. :) My son thought I was weird.

Time will tell.

in the confidential there was some stage audience Christmas thing and they introduced Arthur first, and there was applause and... It's so cute how he must think that he is big people. After the Doctor takes his woman, he is going to make such a great villain. Props to Arthur, and I do love Rory, but the lad is doomed.

Q How do you turn a pond into a river?

A Wait for the oncoming storm to flood it.

THEY BOTH... UM? SHE BOTHS HATE THE FEZ!!!

Shinzon, who's the girl in your avatar?

Lucy (Georgie Henley) from Voyage of The Dawn Treader
 
Am I missing something because I thought the Doctor couldn't rewrite history, as shown in the Tennant late specials.

Again, he didn't rewrite history. Just one man.

Are you saying that one man is irrelevant to history? Goes against those examples in other episodes and just time travel in general. I'm guessing Sardick is a very prominant figure (He does control the sky on the planet and all), so I have to ask as a comparison. Does the same hold true for someone like Edith Keeler (City on the Edge of Forever) or Roosevelt or Kennedy? One man has an impact on the history around him, as we see from the climax of It's a Wonderful Life.
 
I was completely geeking out with the ST09-style lens flares. I found them kind of annoying in the Star Trek movie but loved them here for some reason.
That was one of many things I hated about the film, but I loved it here for one simple reason: I saw the whole situation (especially the opening sequence) as having a laugh at the film.

Having a laugh or tipping a hat?
Taking the piss I think. The tip of the hat was the reference to "Galaxy Class".
 
Speaking of the Girl in the fire place, I was thinking that they were recycling sets when I saw the... was there a fire place in Sardicks... Study?

Some bright spark has already mentioned in this thread that Galaxy Class Starship have been scooning around the Whoverse since the 1970s.

Shinzon.

Who. Is. The. Girl?

I know I should know, and it's pissing me off.
 
Don't know if anyone's already mentioned this, but I've noticed a pretty big plot hole: Abigail's family don't age. When they meet Kazran as a young man and as an old man, they look exactly the same. Even the little kid. :wtf: Very bad plot logic there.
 
Seriously? I hadn't noticed, even though I remember thinking, she must've been a waay older sister to the woman from the beginning of the episode. Was it clear at the Christmas dinner that the look-alikes were her sister and in-laws? Because, considering Scrooge's father is played by the same actor, the idea may be that some sort of cloning is taking place as a means of reproduction.
 
Abigail's sister looks older in the present (I think she's played by two different actresses), but not nearly old enough. I just assumed that the man next to her was her son and the children her grandchildren and that her husband was already dead when she met old Kazran.
 
Maybe the loan Abby's family got was to pay for future plastic surgeries. The story was fun, more than enough so to ignore the apparent age discrepancies.
 
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