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Spoilers 73 Yards grade and discussion thread

How do you rate 73 Yards


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Considering Blink is one of the most popular episodes of modern Doctor Who, it's not hard to see why Doctor lite episodes are a legitimate option for the show, even if the production necessities weren't a factor.

Though to be completely honest, I actually do think Blink is overrated. Don't misunderstand, it is a great episode and I do like it, I've just gotten sick of everyone calling it The Best, that it's kind of soured me on it a bit. Even in amongst third season episodes, I'd probably rate Human Nature/Family of Blood or Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords higher.
I agree with this. I love "Blink" but I wouldn't put it in my top ten favorite episodes. Hell, it might not even be in my top ten Tennant episodes (...but it probably is...).

Either way, it comes back to my original point: There is nothing inherently wrong with a Doctor-lite episode as a concept. It comes down to the writing, plus subjective opinion (case in point, "Love & Monsters" in this very thread).

But to claim, as fact, that such a concept is a bad idea is just plain silly.
 
"Blink" is a good episode. I don't have an issue with Doctor-lite episodes in general, personally. In the case of "73 Yards," it's a strange thing to pull in a new Doctor's first season when we're trying to get to know who he is as the audience. Additionally, there's only eight episodes this season, how was it so impossible to make it possible for Ncuti to be the lead in each of them?
 
I don't hate Blink; I just don't put it on the pedestal that the rest of the fandom does.

It's an episode that I feel is based on an inherently flawed concept and that only succeeds to the degree that it does (it warrants an average rating of 3 out of 5) because of its atmosphere and villains. If the Weeping Angels weren't as compelling as they are, the episode would be on par with Love and Monsters (which gets a 2 on a 1-5 ratings scale) because the characters it focuses on don't matter and aren't interesting enough in and of themselves to carry the episode.
Huh? Sally Sparrow totally is capable of carrying the story. She is absolutely companion worthy. She even has her own sidekick, comedic relief best friend. What more do you want?
 
I've been thinking about the episode, specifically the ending. And I think I've figured out a way to make the episode actually make sense, and have it tie in to the larger Ruby storyline in a really direct way.

Ruby is a reality warper. This doesn't come as much of a shock, she can make it spontaneously snow even on space stations or other planets. It may not actually be Ruby herself doing this, it may be a member of the Pantheon hitchhiking inside her and responding to her emotions (which always trigger the reality shifts), but functionally that part doesn't actually matter. Her emotions trigger observable shifts in reality.

What does matter is that the nature of the place, where the land meets the water, and possibly of the fairy circle itself and the implied supernatural factor thereof, somehow enables Ruby's powers to kick into overdrive and have a much larger and more immediate effect.

When the Doctor and Ruby first arrive on the cliffs, and the Doctor breaks the fairy circle, Ruby reads the wishes/notes. The very first one? "I miss you." Something you would say to someone you lost, as Ruby is about to lose the Doctor. In fact, he vanishes without a trace moments later. She also reads the Mad Jack note, which will play into Gwilliam later. At this point, The Woman appears. We know from the ending that this is in fact, and always has been, Ruby herself from her relative future.

What could future Ruby possibly be saying to these people that make them instantly turn on Ruby personally and drive her away? We are never told, but it DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER. She could be saying hello and asking them for tea. What's important is that after the Doctor disappears Ruby's fear of abandonment is driving her reality shifting abilities. It isn't actually what is being said to the people that is making them flee. That's just the outward mechanism manifested by Ruby's fear. This is how UNIT soldiers could be affected, how even Kate could suddenly be turned even just "hearing" the words over the comm unit. The words don't matter, all that matters is that Ruby fears being left, and so everyone leaves her.

A quick aside, but there is a bizarre bit of dialogue from Kate in her scene. She mentions that Ruby's timeline might be frozen relative to her event. It's never commented on, expanded upon, or even mentioned again. But there are two ways to interpret the line using this analysis, and both work delightfully, even together. On the one hand, this is a splinter timeline created by Ruby herself and operating basically as a tangent from the actual timeline. On the other, Ruby herself is frozen by "her event," her abandonment as a child. She can't move past it and it dominates her mind.

The Gwilliam stuff is such a weird anticlimax, but that actually makes sense now. It only happens because RUBY BELIEVES IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. She creates the guy and he wins the election and becomes PM because she is basically willing it to happen, subconsciously. She then comes up with the clever use of The Woman to stop him and end his threat, which she does completely on her own without any help. She proves that she is smart enough, strong enough and capable enough to save the world without anyone else there to support her. And, coincidentally, she essentially embraces her true nature and true power for the first time.

This culminates in her approaching death decades later, when she has come to terms with being abandoned, but never alone. She then realizes that The Woman has been her all along. Which is reflective of kind of coming to grips with the fact that the only thing she needs to do is to accept herself, and that she is all she needs to move forward with her life regardless of how anyone else treats her. That even if everybody leaves her, she is still more than capable of living her life and being amazing.

And, with her fear of abandonment now more under control because of the revelations she has had on this journey, she is now able to shape a "different" path. It isn't really, it's the proper timeline simply jumping back on track after she derailed it for an episode. Which is why, at last, Ruby is able to hear The Woman in time to prevent the Doctor from breaking the fairy circle and kicking off the cycle all over again.

Edited to Add: Also, I would point out that they explicitly call out that at some point in Ruby's life, "it never snowed again." As in, she never made it start snowing with her emotional response again. Which comes after Ruby gives up on ever finding her birth mother. Thus, the emotional trigger for the reality shift stops happening.
 
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I sort of enjoyed it while watching but I did not like the ending which cast a pall over the episode. Such a long build up with no real pay off, it was like the show just stopped missing five minutes of the ending.
 
I've been thinking about the episode, specifically the ending. And I think I've figured out a way to make the episode actually make sense, and have it tie in to the larger Ruby storyline in a really direct way.

Ruby is a reality warper. This doesn't come as much of a shock, she can make it spontaneously snow even on space stations or other planets. It may not actually be Ruby herself doing this, it may be a member of the Pantheon hitchhiking inside her and responding to her emotions (which always trigger the reality shifts), but functionally that part doesn't actually matter. Her emotions trigger observable shifts in reality.

What does matter is that the nature of the place, where the land meets the water, and possibly of the fairy circle itself and the implied supernatural factor thereof, somehow enables Ruby's powers to kick into overdrive and have a much larger and more immediate effect.

When the Doctor and Ruby first arrive on the cliffs, and the Doctor breaks the fairy circle, Ruby reads the wishes/notes. The very first one? "I miss you." Something you would say to someone you lost, as Ruby is about to lose the Doctor. In fact, he vanishes without a trace moments later. She also reads the Mad Jack note, which will play into Gwilliam later. At this point, The Woman appears. We know from the ending that this is in fact, and always has been, Ruby herself from her relative future.

What could future Ruby possibly be saying to these people that make them instantly turn on Ruby personally and drive her away? We are never told, but it DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER. She could be saying hello and asking them for tea. What's important is that after the Doctor disappears Ruby's fear of abandonment is driving her reality shifting abilities. It isn't actually what is being said to the people that is making them flee. That's just the outward mechanism manifested by Ruby's fear. This is how UNIT soldiers could be affected, how even Kate could suddenly be turned even just "hearing" the words over the comm unit. The words don't matter, all that matters is that Ruby fears being left, and so everyone leaves her.

A quick aside, but there is a bizarre bit of dialogue from Kate in her scene. She mentions that Ruby's timeline might be frozen relative to her event. It's never commented on, expanded upon, or even mentioned again. But there are two ways to interpret the line using this analysis, and both work delightfully, even together. On the one hand, this is a splinter timeline created by Ruby herself and operating basically as a tangent from the actual timeline. On the other, Ruby herself is frozen by "her event," her abandonment as a child. She can't move past it and it dominates her mind.

The Gwilliam stuff is such a weird anticlimax, but that actually makes sense now. It only happens because RUBY BELIEVES IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. She creates the guy and he wins the election and becomes PM because she is basically willing it to happen, subconsciously. She then comes up with the clever use of The Woman to stop him and end his threat, which she does completely on her own without any help. She proves that she is smart enough, strong enough and capable enough to save the world without anyone else there to support her. And, coincidentally, she essentially embraces her true nature and true power for the first time.

This culminates in her approaching death decades later, when she has come to terms with being abandoned, but never alone. She then realizes that The Woman has been her all along. Which is reflective of kind of coming to grips with the fact that the only thing she needs to do is to accept herself, and that she is all she needs to move forward with her life regardless of how anyone else treats her. That even if everybody leaves her, she is still more than capable of living her life and being amazing.

And, with her fear of abandonment now more under control because of the revelations she has had on this journey, she is now able to shape a "different" path. It isn't really, it's the proper timeline simply jumping back on track after she derailed it for an episode. Which is why, at last, Ruby is able to hear The Woman in time to prevent the Doctor from breaking the fairy circle and kicking off the cycle all over again.

Edited to Add: Also, I would point out that they explicitly call out that at some point in Ruby's life, "it never snowed again." As in, she never made it start snowing with her emotional response again. Which comes after Ruby gives up on ever finding her birth mother. Thus, the emotional trigger for the reality shift stops happening.
Hmmm...you might be onto something in regards to Ruby unconsciously warping reality (likely due to a member of the Pantheon as you suggest). Also goes a long way in explaining the snow moments.
 
Sally Sparrow totally is capable of carrying the story.

For you.

I watch Doctor Who because I want The Doctor and/or their Companion(s) to be the central focus of the story, not random one-off characters.

Blink is an average episode that hinges on the Weeping Angels and the atmosphere that their presence creates. Without those elements, it would fall to being below-average based on the absence of the elements that, for me, make Doctor Who what it is (The Doctor and/or their Companion(s) being the central focus of the story).
 
Fine. Let me amend my statement: Doctor Who without The Doctor being a central character is a bad idea on its face. Period.
Maybe you should consider your argument before engaging in one. Besides which, you went on stating you don't actually like the idea of Doctor-lite episodes, even they're even mildly successful like two episodes (out of almost 200!) have been even to your admittance.
 
It's entertainment - I'm happy as long as it functions as such.

I've been thinking about the episode, specifically the ending. And I think I've figured out a way to make the episode actually make sense, and have it tie in to the larger Ruby storyline in a really direct way.

Ruby is a reality warper. This doesn't come as much of a shock, she can make it spontaneously snow even on space stations or other planets. It may not actually be Ruby herself doing this, it may be a member of the Pantheon hitchhiking inside her and responding to her emotions (which always trigger the reality shifts), but functionally that part doesn't actually matter. Her emotions trigger observable shifts in reality.

What does matter is that the nature of the place, where the land meets the water, and possibly of the fairy circle itself and the implied supernatural factor thereof, somehow enables Ruby's powers to kick into overdrive and have a much larger and more immediate effect.

When the Doctor and Ruby first arrive on the cliffs, and the Doctor breaks the fairy circle, Ruby reads the wishes/notes. The very first one? "I miss you." Something you would say to someone you lost, as Ruby is about to lose the Doctor. In fact, he vanishes without a trace moments later. She also reads the Mad Jack note, which will play into Gwilliam later. At this point, The Woman appears. We know from the ending that this is in fact, and always has been, Ruby herself from her relative future.

What could future Ruby possibly be saying to these people that make them instantly turn on Ruby personally and drive her away? We are never told, but it DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER. She could be saying hello and asking them for tea. What's important is that after the Doctor disappears Ruby's fear of abandonment is driving her reality shifting abilities. It isn't actually what is being said to the people that is making them flee. That's just the outward mechanism manifested by Ruby's fear. This is how UNIT soldiers could be affected, how even Kate could suddenly be turned even just "hearing" the words over the comm unit. The words don't matter, all that matters is that Ruby fears being left, and so everyone leaves her.

A quick aside, but there is a bizarre bit of dialogue from Kate in her scene. She mentions that Ruby's timeline might be frozen relative to her event. It's never commented on, expanded upon, or even mentioned again. But there are two ways to interpret the line using this analysis, and both work delightfully, even together. On the one hand, this is a splinter timeline created by Ruby herself and operating basically as a tangent from the actual timeline. On the other, Ruby herself is frozen by "her event," her abandonment as a child. She can't move past it and it dominates her mind.

The Gwilliam stuff is such a weird anticlimax, but that actually makes sense now. It only happens because RUBY BELIEVES IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. She creates the guy and he wins the election and becomes PM because she is basically willing it to happen, subconsciously. She then comes up with the clever use of The Woman to stop him and end his threat, which she does completely on her own without any help. She proves that she is smart enough, strong enough and capable enough to save the world without anyone else there to support her. And, coincidentally, she essentially embraces her true nature and true power for the first time.

This culminates in her approaching death decades later, when she has come to terms with being abandoned, but never alone. She then realizes that The Woman has been her all along. Which is reflective of kind of coming to grips with the fact that the only thing she needs to do is to accept herself, and that she is all she needs to move forward with her life regardless of how anyone else treats her. That even if everybody leaves her, she is still more than capable of living her life and being amazing.

And, with her fear of abandonment now more under control because of the revelations she has had on this journey, she is now able to shape a "different" path. It isn't really, it's the proper timeline simply jumping back on track after she derailed it for an episode. Which is why, at last, Ruby is able to hear The Woman in time to prevent the Doctor from breaking the fairy circle and kicking off the cycle all over again.

Edited to Add: Also, I would point out that they explicitly call out that at some point in Ruby's life, "it never snowed again." As in, she never made it start snowing with her emotional response again. Which comes after Ruby gives up on ever finding her birth mother. Thus, the emotional trigger for the reality shift stops happening.
Excellent analysis - this is Who with a big dollop of psychic supernatural content, possibly due to Ruby's likely connection to the Trickster. She might well have her own peception filter and be able to bend reality like the wind bent the tree on the clifftop. This makes me wonder if the Doctor also is connected to the Pantheon, who perhaps could be thought of as being akin to the Valar and Maiar in Tolkien's mythos. My speculation is that other actual Galifrayan Time Lords such as the Master and the Rani have descriptive archetypal titles because they're based on the template of the Doctor, the Trickster, the Toymaker and so on. I'm not sure which characteristic Ruby represents, but archetypes were a persistent feature of Greek and Roman mythological beings as personified Platonic forms. Traditionally, the ruby gemstone represents purity, nobility and passion.
 
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I sort of enjoyed it while watching but I did not like the ending which cast a pall over the episode. Such a long build up with no real pay off, it was like the show just stopped missing five minutes of the ending.

Boom felt rushed and missing bits at its end too. It’s a common thing now I guess.
 
Did anyone else think the Old Woman looked like William Hartnell at first?
I thought she looked like Louise Jameson, I thought for a while it would be Leela somehow.

Surprised so many people didn't like this one.

I loved it. Millie was great, she was 18 when filming this and it was her first episode and she carried the whole thing brilliantly.
 
My own silly episode theory:

The distant Old Woman is actually Ruby's ghost, but travelling backwards in time like in the movie Tenet. This is why as old Ruby is about to die, the ghost finally gets closer and closer to her . . . it is actually emerging from Ruby's corpse, but is moving backwards relative to Ruby.

Ruby could never get close to the ghost due to some manifestation of the Blinovitch Limitation Effect (or, to use the vernacular of new Who, because of "timey-wimey"). The ghost could never communicate clearly with Ruby because everything she said sounded backwards. Finally, at the end of the episode, she realizes she needs to say the words "pets t'noD" so that young Ruby would hear "Don't step" and realize she needs to prevent the Doctor from breaking the fairy circle.

Though this doesn't explain why everybody fled in terror after talking to the ghost.
 
Finally, at the end of the episode, she realizes she needs to say the words "pets t'noD" so that young Ruby would hear "Don't step" and realize she needs to prevent the Doctor from breaking the fairy circle.

Though this doesn't explain why everybody fled in terror after talking to the ghost.

pets t'noD is actually an ancient Klingon curse. It's like their Cruciatus, but for the soul.
 
Well I liked the episode but this needs payoff. Hopefully somewhere later this season?

The word "No More" came up a few times in this episode. Hints of War Doctor? Is Ruby the Moment?

What was the 14th Doctor doing during all of this?

I need answers.
 
Apparently, one of the pub denizens was drinking beer labelled as "Llanfer Ceiriog" which was also the name of a Welsh village the 7th Doctor and Ace visit in the novel "Cats Cradle: Witch Mark". This story also dealt with the fae, albeit actually directly.

It’s a weird arse book. I haven’t read it since about 1992.
If I had a quid for every time a Doctor Who book featured a talking horse of some kind… well, it’d probably not add up to more than a fiver, but still, it was a thing.
 
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