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6 signs that reality is catching up with science fiction.

You do know what is "science fiction" is a sliding scale? Compared to previous generations the current generation is always "caught up".
 
It only remains science "fiction" if it's fictional. If it ever becomes synonymous with the real world, it ceases to be s.f. All that happens is that someone moves the goalposts by writing more s.f.

Not to say the items in that article are negligible claims — far from it. But making it sound like some breakthrough is about to be made between imagination and reality, or that we're on the verge of the Singularity, or some such thing, ignores all the times it's happened before.

That article could have been written 100 years ago, crowing about how reality was catching up to the predictions of Jules Verne. And it would have been right.
 
Science fiction is a sliding scale affair. Also science fiction isn't about forecasting but imagining "what if?" Being accuractely predictive is mostly just a happy coincidence
 
It has already happened. Computers, cell phones, smartphones, automatic opening doors (which killed courtesy), even space travel were all science fiction.
 
- Antigravity
- Terraforming
- Quantum computers
- Zero point energy
- Copied and downloaded consciousness
- Nanobots
- Nanodocs
- Nano-biology
- Forcefields
- Star travel (as opposed to very limited intrasolar travel)
- Self aware Androids
- Fusion energy
- Human hibernation
- Robot or synthetic (bio-engineered) bodies for transplanted minds.
- Genuinely self-aware A.I.
- Mining asteroids and other solar planets and satellites.
- Extraterrestial life

Those are but a few SF concepts that haven't happened yet.
 
Big screen TV's, check. Black President, check. Space Station, check. As Gibson said; "The future is here, it just isn't evenly distributed yet."
 
Also:

Space drive:
http://www.fastcompany.com/1837966/mustafas-space-drive-egyptian-students-quantum-physics-invention

Nanotechnology:
http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/17-...creating-cancer-killing-nanoparticle-1447819/

I'd like your thoughts on these. I'm SO behind in my science reading you'll just have to do a "explain like I'm 5" thing. But I would liek to add: THIS is why education is important. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but tell everyone you know, who says it's a waste of time, or that "young people aren't doing much these days".
 
- Antigravity
- Terraforming
- Quantum computers
- Zero point energy
- Copied and downloaded consciousness
- Nanobots
- Nanodocs
- Nano-biology
- Forcefields
- Star travel (as opposed to very limited intrasolar travel)
- Self aware Androids
- Fusion energy
- Human hibernation
- Robot or synthetic (bio-engineered) bodies for transplanted minds.
- Genuinely self-aware A.I.
- Mining asteroids and other solar planets and satellites.
- Extraterrestial life

Those are but a few SF concepts that haven't happened yet.

I would also scratch Extraterrestial life as well,after all we can't prove or disprove that it has happened, and given the vastness of the universe isn't it more likely somewhere out there in the universe there is other life?
 
- Antigravity
- Terraforming
- Quantum computers
- Zero point energy
- Copied and downloaded consciousness
- Nanobots
- Nanodocs
- Nano-biology
- Forcefields
- Star travel (as opposed to very limited intrasolar travel)
- Self aware Androids
- Fusion energy
- Human hibernation
- Robot or synthetic (bio-engineered) bodies for transplanted minds.
- Genuinely self-aware A.I.
- Mining asteroids and other solar planets and satellites.
- Extraterrestial life

Those are but a few SF concepts that haven't happened yet.

I would also scratch Extraterrestial life as well,after all we can't prove or disprove that it has happened, and given the vastness of the universe isn't it more likely somewhere out there in the universe there is other life?
Here's the thing. When people say "extraterrestrial life" the connotation is usually meant to imply intelligent alien life. But the fact is any life, even microbial, found beyond the Earth would in fact be extraterrestrial life. And that is the first bit of solid evidence that might yet be found within our own solar system. If organisms are found elsewhere in the solar system then it establishes life can originate and exist beyond our planet. And if it can happen in this system the probability is it can happen elsewhere in the galaxy or even the universe.

Intelligence as we understand it (our own) wasn't an inevitable occurence in life evolving on Earth, but it did happen. That with life being able to form elsewhere would support the possibility that alien intelligence isn't impossible given the right conditions---it could and might have indeed happened even if it mightn't be an intelligence we could immediately recognize at first.

For all we know someone else is out there facing the same quandary and asking the same questions we are.
 
Agreed, however when I read Extraterristal life, I took it to mean even microbial life. If people mean Intelligent extraterristial life they should say that.
 
Dude the extraterrestrial debate is over. Aliens have landed on the moon, it's all over the internet.

I wish they would hurry up and exterminate Earth, the wait is killing me :(
 
Intelligence as we understand it (our own) wasn't an inevitable occurence in life evolving on Earth, but it did happen. That with life being able to form elsewhere would support the possibility that alien intelligence isn't impossible given the right conditions---it could and might have indeed happened even if it mightn't be an intelligence we could immediately recognize at first.

For all we know someone else is out there facing the same quandary and asking the same questions we are.
Some paleontologists believe that had a meteor not struck earth that the likely result would have been this:



Perhaps the most ‘advanced’ dinosaur known to have been living at the time of the extinction was a small theropod called Troodon. They were small, upright dinosaurs that walked in a bipedal fashion and lived in large groups. Even more compelling was that detailed analysis of their brain structure seems to suggest that they possessed very good vision and even potentially the ability to solve complex problems.
So with its large, substantial brain, long grasping hands and big eyes, could Troodon have wandered down the same evolutionary path as ourselves, to not only possess a similar level of intelligence, but even come to resemble us physically? Some palaeontologists think that it’s likely that at least one kind of dinosaur could have evolved along the same sort of lines as primates or humans. Their argument centres on the fact that we humans are an incredibly successful form of life, and so if intelligence is a good solution for us, then why shouldn’t it be a good solution for dinosaurs?
 
Big screen TV's, check. Black President, check. Space Station, check. As Gibson said; "The future is here, it just isn't evenly distributed yet."
The first elected Black President (to hold the title of President) I believe would have been President Joseph Kasa-Vubu of the Republic of Congo, he took office on June 30, 1960.

We've had space stations since the early seventies.

The Human Species ... been there, done that.


(go seahawks)
 
Some paleontologists believe that had a meteor not struck earth that the likely result would have been this:


Perhaps the most ‘advanced’ dinosaur known to have been living at the time of the extinction was a small theropod called Troodon. They were small, upright dinosaurs that walked in a bipedal fashion and lived in large groups. Even more compelling was that detailed analysis of their brain structure seems to suggest that they possessed very good vision and even potentially the ability to solve complex problems.
So with its large, substantial brain, long grasping hands and big eyes, could Troodon have wandered down the same evolutionary path as ourselves, to not only possess a similar level of intelligence, but even come to resemble us physically? Some palaeontologists think that it’s likely that at least one kind of dinosaur could have evolved along the same sort of lines as primates or humans. Their argument centres on the fact that we humans are an incredibly successful form of life, and so if intelligence is a good solution for us, then why shouldn’t it be a good solution for dinosaurs?
^^^Emphasis mine.

Shall we read the text you omitted (link), which brackets what you quoted? Here (emphasis mine):

Intelligent Dinosaurs?

If the dinosaurs had never died out, then could one of them have possibly evolved sentient like intelligence similar to us? It’s certainly a fanciful notion, but not altogether impossible, after all if an alien visited Earth in the aftermath of the K/T (Cretaceous/Tertiary) extinction could they have foreseen the evolution of humans from small tiny mammals that mostly resembled modern shrews?

However, most contemporary palaeontologists think that the notion of a dinosaur humanoid or dinosauroid is far-fetched and a total insult to the dinosaurs and I agree with them. We humans often develop this arrogant tendency to believe that we represent some sort of evolutionary pinnacle or end point, instead we are just one of millions and millions of natural experiments operating in the world today. I find it highly doubtful that the dinosaurs would have evolved to look anything like a person, they would have probably continued to evolve along the dinosaurian trajectory, getting bigger brains and bigger eyes, but not necessarily evolving the same kind of intelligence as us.

Hardly a "most likely" result.
 
I think DarthTom is suffering from the sadly common belief that evolution is goal-oriented and that upright-walking warm-blooded vertebrates with opposable thumbs and large brains represent some kind of pinnacle of evolutionary achievement.

Human bodies are functional but also fraught with all kinds of problems. We're mostly just lucky that our brains and dexterity allow us to develop technologies for overcoming our limitations.

I agree that dinosaur evolution would likely not have led to humanoid forms. It just doesn't make any sense.
 
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